Re: Definitive Proof that the Corona is Tens of Thousands of Times More Dense than Earth's Atmosphere

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Sujet : Re: Definitive Proof that the Corona is Tens of Thousands of Times More Dense than Earth's Atmosphere
De : nospam (at) *nospam* de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 13. Dec 2024, 13:46:48
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LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:37:51 +0000, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
 
Den 10.12.2024 22:52, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen:
The accepted solar physics is that the density of the Sun's corona is
only 1/10,000ths of Earth's atmosphere. Robitaille disproves this by
relying on Zirin's refutation of Saha's equation in the following way.
Ionization in the corona would be maximized either by a minimum pressure
or a maximum temperature. Saha's equation relied on a low-temperature
estimate from the ionization, giving the corona low pressure. However,
the ions Iron 14 and Iron 13 are of equal abundance, there so from the
Elwert ionization theory, this provides a temperature of one million
degrees such that the pressure must be at least tens of thousands times
more than Earth's atmosphere.
>
Harold Zirin p. 72
Robitaille: "The Saha Equation & the Pressure above the Photosphere!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=vt_wnyewBm0&list=PLdnBDlkvz2vMjeEke6PLIQWNT1eZf7O62&index=4
>
The pressure in the solar photosphere is only approximately
1% of the  pressure in Earth's atmosphere near the ground,
yet it is radiating black body radiation at 5778 K.
>
If the pressure in the corona were tens of times more
than the pressure in Earth's atmosphere near the ground, then
the corona would also radiate black body radiation. At temperature
1 million K, the radiated energy would be 0.9e9 (0.9 billion) times
what it is.
>
Don't you understand how ridiculous this is?
>
The radiation from the corona is a discrete spectrum consisting
of emission lines, and nothing like a black body spectrum.
That's why we know that the pressure must be _much_ less
than in the photosphere.
>
That's why we can see the photosphere through the corona.

Right.

The corona emits no blackbody radiation, and a denser corona would not
emit blackbody radiation either. It would block more of the blackbody
radiation from the photosphere concealing the higher temperature there
than the 5778K believed in.

You are already wrong by definition.
The edge of the photosphere is precisely at the level
where the Sun stops being optically dense, hence a black body.
The corona absorbing the black body radiation from below
is a contradiction in terms.
If it did it wouldn't be the corona,

Jan

Date Sujet#  Auteur
10 Dec 24 * Definitive Proof that the Corona is Tens of Thousands of Times More Dense than Earth's Atmosphere10LaurenceClarkCrossen
10 Dec 24 +* Re: Definitive Proof that the Corona is Tens of Thousands of Times More Dense than Earth's Atmosphere2LaurenceClarkCrossen
10 Dec 24 i`- Re: Definitive Proof that the Corona is Tens of Thousands of Times More Dense than Earth's Atmosphere1LaurenceClarkCrossen
11 Dec 24 +* Re: Definitive Proof that the Corona is Tens of Thousands of Times More Dense than Earth's Atmosphere2Mikko
11 Dec 24 i`- Re: Definitive Proof that the Corona is Tens of Thousands of Times More Dense than Earth's Atmosphere1LaurenceClarkCrossen
13 Dec 24 +* Re: Definitive Proof that the Corona is Tens of Thousands of Times More Dense than Earth's Atmosphere3LaurenceClarkCrossen
13 Dec 24 i+- Re: Definitive Proof that the Corona is Tens of Thousands of Times More Dense than Earth's Atmosphere1J. J. Lodder
13 Dec 24 i`- Re: Definitive Proof that the Corona is Tens of Thousands of Times More Dense than Earth's Atmosphere1Paul.B.Andersen
13 Dec 24 `* Re: Definitive Proof that the Corona is Tens of Thousands of Times More Dense than Earth's Atmosphere2LaurenceClarkCrossen
14 Dec 24  `- Re: Definitive Proof that the Corona is Tens of Thousands of Times More Dense than Earth's Atmosphere1J. J. Lodder

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