Re: How did Einstein Develop his Field Equations? When: A. He admitted having little math

On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 21:56:35 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:
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On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 10:42:14 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:
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LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:
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On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 8:16:21 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:
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rhertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 15:06:47 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:
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LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:
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On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 11:50:23 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:
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LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:
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How did Einstein Develop his Field Equations?
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When:
A. He admitted having little math and no ability in non-Euclidean
geometry.
B. He always relied on someone else to do his math.
C. He denied getting it from Hilbert.
D. He never said who he got it from.
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Answer:
He stole them from Hilbert.

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Hilbert disagreed,
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Jan

Here are two other versions of the quote;
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"Every street boy in Gottingen knows as much elliptical geometry as
Einstein. But the equations are his."
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 "Every boy in the streets of Gottingen understands more about
four-dimensional geometry than Einstein. Yet, in spite of that,
Einstein did the work and not the mathematicians." — David Hilbert
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There is only one way to interpret this. That is Hilbert pointing out
that obviously Einstein did not invent the field equations because he
could not.

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That is your way, and it is obviously wrong.
Hilbert chides his fellow mathematicians, and hence himself,
for not having found the correct equation of general relativity,
despite their superior technical skills.
Hilbert goes on to state that:
In spite of that it was Einstein who got there.
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You may guess what Hilbert did next: (see the ref supplied by RH)
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On December 4th, Hilbert even nominated Einstein for election as a
corresponding member of the Göttingen Mathematical Society.
(So to his own backyard, where all those superior Gottingen
mathematicians dwelt. It was the highest honour he could bestow
personally)
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Just what you would expect Hilbert to do,
if he considered Einstein an incompetent bungler
who had just stolen his results.
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You had better forget about all this.
You are wrong about it, period.
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Jan

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Stop talking idiocies,

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[snip abuse, and new irrelevancies]
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Do you deny that the text I quoted is in the reference you gave?
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Jan

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Everyone can plainly understand Hilbert was pointing out that Einstein
was not competent to have thought up the field equations. It is utterly
deceitful to think otherwise. You are so deluded.

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Everyone who is not wearing your blinders can see what Hilbert said,
and what he intended.
He praised Einstein for having found the field equations,
despite his initial lack of the mathematical toolkit needed for it.
Einstein created and learned for himself whatever was needed.
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BTW, in a later note Hilbert expressed admiration,
and a bit of jealousy, at Einsten's ease and speed
in deriving the Mercury precession from the field equations.
"If only I could calculate like you..."
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Jan

As usual, you are not the slightest bit persuasive. "...towards the end
of his life Einstein admitted to: 'Having been an unscrupulous
opportunist.'"- ibid p. 38.

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Ah, so you are quote mining again. There are many versions, for example:
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Einstein portrayed himself, correctly and unapologetically, as someone
who must appear as "unscrupulous opportunist" to the systematic
epistemologist by combining realism, idealism, and positivism in order
to advance his theorizing.
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This is the right attitude with respect to philosophy
for any scientist who wants to get somewhere.
Who cares what a 'systematic epistemologist' may think about you?
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Better still, don't listen to philosophers at all.
Feynman for example: "Philosophy of Science is as useful to scientists
as Ornithology is to birds." (unsourced)
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Jan

You dress up the emperor in gauze. Through it we can see him appear as
he truly is, an "unscrupulous opportunist" charlatan.