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Poincare has surely still a fellowship,
maybe a form of counter culture, similar like
Spencer Brown. Who halucinates a supervenient
logic over the logics from the formal revolution,
mostly appealing to diagrammtic reasoning.
"The mathematician Darboux claimed he was un
intuitif (an intuitive), arguing that this is
demonstrated by the fact that he worked so
often by visual representation. Jacques Hadamard
wrote that Poincaré's research demonstrated
marvelous clarity[76] and Poincaré himself wrote
that he believed that logic was not a way to
invent but a way to structure ideas and that
logic limits ideas."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Poincar%C3%A9#Character
This is a very common psychological defense
mechanism, sometimes having even a religious
motivation, in that it is believed that the
face of God or Angels speak to humans through
mathematics. But once again with generative
AI and halucinating ChatGPT this humanist
monopole is challenged somehow even more.
Mild Shock schrieb:>
Poincare had quite some problems with the
formal revolution that took place as well
in the last 100 or more years, starting with
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things like naive set theory and its antinomies,
ending with computer formalized proofs of the Keppler
packing nowadays. He wrote a lengthy book:
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Science and method
by Poincaré, Henri, 1854-1912
https://archive.org/details/sciencemethod00poinuoft/page/n3/mode/2up
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His struggle starts at page 160, The New Logics.
Similar Einstein was New Mechanics for him.
Mostlikely Poincaré nowadays would be a form of
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Sabine Hossenfelder with 100 YouTube videos and
possibly many followers. Poincaré faced the
destiny of any old fart that became irrelevant
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over the time and turned into a commentator.
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Thomas Heger schrieb:Am Freitag000003, 03.01.2025 um 21:30 schrieb Mild Shock:>Hi,>
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Einstein had further sympathetic features:
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1. avid sailor, owned several small boats
Einstein: Yes Poincaré: No
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2. talking walks with Gödel in Princeton
Einstein: Yes Poincaré: No
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3. Answering "I am a pacifist and a scientist."
to U.S. immigration authorities:
Einstein: Yes Poincaré: No
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4. Easy memes like Einstein / Zweistein / Dreistein
https://nz.pinterest.com/pin/583919907970845584/
Einstein: Yes Poincaré: No
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5. What else?
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Sure, Einstein was certainly interesting.
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Einstein was also a good musician and could play violin.
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He was most likely fluent in French, because he was friend with people, who didn't speak German (Marie Curie, for instance, or George Lemaitre).
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Poincare, on the other hand, was an extremely good mathematician and also a very productive theoretical physicist.
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So, whom would you chose as - say- professor in theoretical physics???
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Einstein would make an excellent musician, but Poincare would be the better physicist, of course, because playing the violin wasn't necessary for a physicist.
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Also sailing small boats or talking with Gödel is nice, but not really a requirement for a physics professor.
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