Re: Argument with ChatGPT about that Pound-Rebka experiment was A FRAUD.

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Sujet : Re: Argument with ChatGPT about that Pound-Rebka experiment was A FRAUD.
De : hertz778 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (rhertz)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 11. Jan 2025, 16:01:37
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On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 13:07:05 +0000, ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog wrote:
<snip my old post>

At the time Pound and Rebka conducted their experiment, it was not yet
understood that gravitational time dilation is a feature of EVERY
theory of gravitation that respects the equivalence principle. This
includes Newtonian gravitation.
>
Although you reject GR, gravitational redshift/blueshift is at this
time an extremely well-documented phenomenon. For example, many years
of accumulated data have proven that standard clocks in Boulder, CO
tick at a different rate than the USNO clocks.
>
Do you reject the Pound-Rebka through Pound-Snider series of
experiments as verifying a fundamental prediction of ***Newtonian***
gravitation? Do you believe that Gravity Probe A is a fraud? Do you
believe that the people who maintain UTC as a weighted average of
hundreds of standards clocks around the world are lying when they
apply corrections for gravitational time dilation to the clock
readings, when these corrections can be understood as a consequence
of ***Newtonian*** gravitation?
People working here, in Germany, want to correct TAI/UTC worldwide,
depending on HOW MUCH a given atomic clock is raised from the geoid
(even 1 meter).
https://www.ptb.de/cms/en/ptb/fachabteilungen/abt4/fb-44/ag-441/realisation-of-legal-time-in-germany/the-time-scales-tai-and-eal.html
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AI and the gravitational time dilatation
When timescale information is transferred from one reference frame to
another, the transformation laws of the General Relativity must be taken
into account. TAI is defined in a geocentric reference system. Its scale
unit is the SI second as realized at the mean sea level of the rotating
earth. The corresponding gravitational equipotential surface is also
known as the geoid.
Due to the relativistic time dilatation caused by the earth's
gravitational potential, the SI second could only be realized by atomic
clocks at sea level if no corrections were applied. In order to
compensate for the gravitational time dilatation, the rates of atomic
clocks located at an altitude h above sea level are corrected by a
relative amount of -1.09 X 10^-16 (h/m).
The PTB clocks for example are located at heights of h = 78 until 79 m
so that the relative rate correction is about -8.6.10-15. This takes
into account that the atomic second intervals realized by the PTB clocks
are shorter by 8.6.10-15 than the SI second produced by a cesium clock
located on the geoid.
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This site is the PTB (Physikalisch-Technische Bundesanstalt), the German
National Metrology Institute.
It seems that cretin relativists working there ARE VERY CONCERNED that
their clocks may lose 1 second in 26,000,000 years.
You just CAN'T TAKE SERIOUSLY proposals like this. In contrast, the
equivalent Japanese institute has fixed his goals to keep UTC/TAI world
time within an error of +/- 10 nanoseconds. There is a difference of
about 1,000,000 to 1 between both postures.
Who is the degenerate MF here?
P.D.: I believe that every thing done in the last 100 years to impose
relativity as the product of a "lone" Jew theoretical physicist, who was
able to overthrow whatever physics achieved since Kepler and Galileo.
Relativity is imposed as a religion/cult by Jewish supremacists and
zionists, who started to take revenge for the way they were treated
during 1,900 years (Europe mainly). Since mid XIX Century, they started
to gain positions of power in banking, politics, science, education,
social values, etc. They peaked once the decade before WWI. They peaked
twice after WWII. Now, they have achieved many of their goals through
almost complete domination of the western world.
Look what the shitholes that Europe and the US since year 2000, through
degradation of education and politics, woke movements, social media,
scientific pursuits, finance, etc.
IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY. Just follow the money. The rest will reveal by
itself.
Relativity is just a tool to dumb down physics (and mathematics),
because its values as hard sciences have been lost due to the emerging
power of engineering, technology and logistics. Contributions of
relativity to the incredible advances in the last 100 years IS CLOSE TO
ZERO.
But, as weaponized relativity failed its objectives in the last 50
years, being secluded to cosmology and particle physics mostly, the new
target is AI.
Watch closely WHO ARE BEHIND the development of Artificial Intelligence,
and WHO are going to be benefited with the elimination of CRITICAL
THINKING and more than 60% of the workforce in the next 10/15 years?
You? Surely not.

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