Re: Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike

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Sujet : Re: Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike
De : mlwozniak (at) *nospam* wp.pl (Maciej Wozniak)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 18. Feb 2025, 22:04:00
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W dniu 18.02.2025 o 21:59, Paul B. Andersen pisze:
Den 17.02.2025 22:29, skrev rhertz:
Line element ds in the Schwarzschild metric(describing spacetime around
a massive object like the Sun):
>
ds² = -(1 - 2GM/c² r) c² dt² + 1/(1 - 2GM/c² r) dr² + r² dɸ²
>
 So you have realised that it was a blunder to think you could
use the metric for flat spacetime in an environment where geodesics
are ellipses.
 ----------------------
 It is very obvious that you don't know what a metric is, so
I will give a short lesson about the most elementary concepts
in spacetime geometry:
 In physics, an "event" is a point in space at a time,
or a point in spacetime.
 The metric can be used to find the spacetime interval between
two events, or the spacetime interval along a path between two events.
 It is quite common to use s² as the interval, but it is more 'natural' to call the interval s, so that's what I will do.
 's' consists of two components, a temporal and a spatial.
If we call the temporal component cT and the spatial component D,
we have: s² = −c²T² + D²
 If D > cT then S is spacelike  (s² > 0)  D/T > c
If D = cT then S is lightlike  (s² = 0)  D/T = c
If D < cT then S is timelike   (s² < 0)  D/T < c
 Two events on the worldline of a massive object will always be
separated by a timelike interval, because the object's speed D/T
is always less than c, and D < cT.
 In the latter case it is common to set s = -cτ, and
the Schwarzschild metric becomes:
 c²dτ² = (1 - 2GM/c²r)c²dt² - 1/(1 - 2GM/c²r)dr² - r² dɸ²
 You can see this metric applied on satellites here:
https://paulba.no/pdf/Clock_rate.pdf
 (I know I am an idiot who bother to try to teach you
  what you never will learn.)
Nope. You're just an idiot desperately
wanting to impress someone with your
"knowledge".

Date Sujet#  Auteur
12 Feb 25 * Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike12rhertz
12 Feb 25 `* Re: Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike11Richard Hachel
13 Feb 25  `* Re: Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike10rhertz
13 Feb 25   `* Re: Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike9rhertz
15 Feb 25    +* Re: Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike6rhertz
17 Feb 25    i`* Re: Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike5rhertz
18 Feb 25    i `* Re: Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike4Maciej Wozniak
21 Feb 25    i  `* Re: Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike3rhertz
22 Feb 25    i   `* Re: Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike2rhertz
24 Feb 25    i    `- Re: Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike1rhertz
19 Feb 25    `* Re: Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike2J. J. Lodder
19 Feb 25     `- Re: Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike1Maciej Wozniak

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