Re: Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike

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Sujet : Re: Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike
De : nospam (at) *nospam* de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 19. Feb 2025, 12:53:54
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Paul B. Andersen <relativity@paulba.no> wrote:

Den 13.02.2025 18:26, skrev rhertz:
Can you derive, for GPS satellites, the alleged shift in frequency:
 
?f/f ≈ GM/c?  [1/r_E ? 1/(r_E + h)]? GM/[2 c? (r_E + h)]
 
https://paulba.no/pdf/Clock_rate.pdf

If you ever are in the mood, you could add a section
on non-circular GPS orbits.
(they all are a little, no point in wasting precious fuel in keeping
orbits exactly circular)

When the orbit is elliptical the clock correction varies over the orbit.
Only the average is corrected for in the constant clock offset.
Relativistic corrections for this have to be applied in the receivers.
(based on the almanac date that the sat also transmits in the full
message)

And yes, it does matter if you want the best possible accuracy.
It will for example decrease the CEP of GPS-guided munitions
from perhaps 10m to a few meter.
This may make the difference between a shell landing in a trench
rather than next to it.

Russian soldiers must hate relativity,

Jan




Date Sujet#  Auteur
12 Feb 25 * Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike12rhertz
12 Feb 25 `* Re: Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike11Richard Hachel
13 Feb 25  `* Re: Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike10rhertz
13 Feb 25   `* Re: Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike9rhertz
15 Feb 25    +* Re: Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike6rhertz
17 Feb 25    i`* Re: Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike5rhertz
18 Feb 25    i `* Re: Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike4Maciej Wozniak
21 Feb 25    i  `* Re: Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike3rhertz
22 Feb 25    i   `* Re: Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike2rhertz
24 Feb 25    i    `- Re: Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike1rhertz
19 Feb 25    `* Re: Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike2J. J. Lodder
19 Feb 25     `- Re: Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike1Maciej Wozniak

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