Sujet : Re: Electron size, shape and spin.Confusion and conflicts with Einstein's 1905 SR.
De : relativity (at) *nospam* paulba.no (Paul.B.Andersen)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativityDate : 22. Mar 2025, 22:45:01
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Den 21.03.2025 23:59, skrev rhertz:
On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 22:27:40 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
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To fulfill the prophecy of the idiot -
the clock should be left alone, without
any corrections. GPS wouldn't work, but
what a magnificient symmetry we would
have instead.
I agree with the comment about that clocks should be left alone. THEY
ARE, and the stupid myth that relativistic corrections are required is
just that, A MYTH.
Nice to see that you have found a friend to share your misconceptions
with.
Plus, another observation: It's claimed by relativists that, thanks to
that correction, the received L1 carrier on any GPS receiver ALLOWS to
recover the
master TCXO frequency of 10.23000000 Mhz, which is used to CORRECT the
frequency of the ordinary crystal oscillator of the GPS receiver, so it
can TIME the arrival of the MARKS.
ROFL
Definitely one of you better misconception!
Do you really, seriously believe that 'relativists' claim that
the receiver can measure the frequency of the L1 carrier to be
1575.42 MHz = 154*10.23 MHz and can use this to recover the
master TCXO frequency of 10.23000000 Mhz? :-D
You claim to be an engineer and must understand that it is
no way a GPS receiver can measure the L1 frequency with any precision
better than ~ 1575420000 ±150 Hz.
But you believe that 'relativists' claim they can measure the frequency of L1 to be 1575420000 ±0.025 Hz!
Those 'relativists' of yours are really stupid, aren't they? :-D
What is curious is that the MYTH of the 38.5 us compensation (calculated
via Schwarzchild for ONE SATELLITE) is enough to explain WHY
RELATIVISTIC GPS WORKS.
But, in the REAL WORLD, even the cheapest GPS receiver use the L1 signal
OF FOUR SATELLITES, at any given instant. The line of sight RECEIVER-
GPS SV is tilted wrt the tangent of the orbital path, and last only a
short time at a valid angle of +/- 40° with respect to the projection of
the Earth's radius above your head, After that time, the receiver
engages with OTHER GPS SV.
I wonder how the retarded relativists explain the impact of each of the
daily 38.5 usec applied to FOUR SATELLITES, being that the angle of
reception is extremely variable and last only a few minutes.
All what you read is the fucking explanation about ONE SATELLITE and its
effect on the error in alignment, DISMISSING the complex matrix based
math of trilateration.
But, I guess, details are much less important than REPEAT AS A PARROT
the same shit for decades.
Good grief!
You have discussed the GPS for several decades in this forum, and you
have still not the faintest idea of how the GPS works.
Well done to keep your ignorance for so long time, Richard. :-D
-- Paulhttps://paulba.no/
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