Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.

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Sujet : Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.
De : AetherRegaind (at) *nospam* somewhere.in.the.aether (Aether Regained)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 03. Apr 2025, 16:56:00
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Ross Finlayson:
On 04/02/2025 12:57 PM, Aether Regained wrote:
rhertz:> In 1930 Wolfgang Pauli  proposed the existence of the neutrino
(named in
1933 by Fermi) to solve the violation of energy conservation in beta
decay (when a neutron turns into a proton and emits an electron).
Scientists observed that the emitted electrons had varying energies,
rather than a fixed value as expected. The neutrino was ALLEGEDLY
detected experimentally by Cowan and Reines in 1956.
>
The missing energy varied from 0.1 to 0.2 eV (millions of times lower
than electrons at rest). Pauli assumed that neutrinos might be massless,
like photons, and this kept in the '70s, with the Standard Model
(1970s). Analysis from Solar Neutrinos (1960s–2001) suggested that
neutrinos oscillate, wich (de Broglie) require mass.
>
Up to date, the neutinos mass is UNKNOWN. As neutrinos proved to be the
JOKER CARD of particle physics, different types of neutrino emerged
since its invention TO JUSTIFY the conservation of energy. All three of
them were asigned a spin of 1/2 in the Standard Model, only for
equations involving SMEP charged particles. They are; Electron neutrino
(< 2.2 eV), Muon neutrino (< 0.17 eV) and Tau neutrino (< 15.5 MeV). The
energies ARE STILL NOT KNOWN (so their mass, IF THEY HAVE IT AT ALL).
>
>
In psychology there is a well documented phenomenon, in which a
perpetrator accuses others of the very sin he is guilty of.
>
Pauli is the classic example of this. He was the one who coined the
term: "NOT EVEN WRONG" to describe a theory that could not be falsified.
In hindsight we see that it was his coping mechanism or a preemptive
measure he took, so others didn't accuse him of being "NOT EVEN WRONG"
with his unfalsifiable neutrino theory.
>
 
Yeah, it's usually called "projection".
 

Thanks Ross. That is exactly the term I was trying to recall.

Wikipedia has some more interesting details:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

Pauli was a pragmatist, as a physicist he wasn't much of a philosopher,
sort of a narrow view. The Pauli principle of course is part and parcel
of particle physics, since they aren't points and not perfect,
then I read that he was rather irascible and not very congenial,
then that his interactions as much discouraged others as made
any sorts positive contributions himself.
 
Or, after Pauli principle and Pauli/Dirac formalism and that,
he's mostly "not even wrong", ....
 
Neutrino theory isn't unfalsifiable, something like "virtual photons"
are quite worse, while of course "dark matter and energy" are pretty
much having falsified a usual sort theory with such type things.
 
 
I.e., one can re-write QED with a different mechanism and it could
be just as explanatory as "virtual photons", and, they don't have
the usual accoutrement of virtual particle auto-annihilation that
makes other kinds of virtual particles falsifiable, and, the
crisis in cosmology is a rather poor charade.
 
Anyways I'd like to think that Pauli had at least one good idea,
since otherwise Pauli principle is just a rather simple excluded middle,
in geometry, then otherwise he's more guilty of dumbing
down the discussion than being memorable for something greater,
it's not really that relevant, though for example I point to
Pauli principle for what it is and Pauli/Dirac a usual formalism.
 
There are others that suffice for the same things, ....
 
 
There's projection then there's also a sort of reverse projection,
though that's sort of more the passive than the active, say.
 
 
Anyways neutrinos are definitely a thing and the crisis in
cosmology is definitely a thing, and most people don't give
two cares about it, and most's opinions aren't worth two cents.
 
 


Date Sujet#  Auteur
29 Mar 25 * The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.31rhertz
29 Mar 25 +* Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.2rhertz
29 Mar 25 i`- Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.1rhertz
29 Mar 25 +* Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.3Ross Finlayson
30 Mar 25 i`* Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.2Ross Finlayson
30 Mar 25 i `- Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.1rhertz
29 Mar 25 +- Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.1rhertz
30 Mar 25 +- Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.1bertitaylor
30 Mar 25 +- Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.1J. J. Lodder
30 Mar 25 +* Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.16gharnagel
30 Mar 25 i`* Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.15rhertz
31 Mar 25 i +* Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.8gharnagel
31 Mar 25 i i+- Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.1Ross Finlayson
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31 Mar 25 i +- Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.1Thomas Heger
1 Apr20:18 i `* Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.5Paul.B.Andersen
1 Apr23:03 i  +- Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.1rhertz
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4 Apr04:48 i   `* Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.2gharnagel
4 Apr08:12 i    `- Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.1Quenton Costantini
2 Apr20:57 `* Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.6Aether Regained
3 Apr06:15  +- Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.1LaurenceClarkCrossen
3 Apr07:16  `* Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.4Ross Finlayson
3 Apr14:52   +- Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.1Ross Finlayson
3 Apr16:56   `* Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.2Aether Regained
3 Apr22:46    `- Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.1rhertz

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