Re: Albert in Relativityland

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Sujet : Re: Albert in Relativityland
De : clzb93ynxj (at) *nospam* att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 04. Apr 2025, 22:20:55
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On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 7:50:48 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

Paul.B.Andersen <relativity@paulba.no> wrote:
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Den 02.04.2025 20:25, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen:
On Wed, 2 Apr 2025 9:13:22 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
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Den 01.04.2025 21:28, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen:
Relativity is so fallacious that a person with only knowledge of
elementary logic and an 85 I.Q. is qualified to refute it.
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Is it because of your  85 I.Q. and knowledge of elementary
logic that your comment to my statement:
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"The speed of muons is v = ~ 0.999668?c through the atmosphere
  which also is within the laboratory with open roof."
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was:
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  "THEN, the time dilation must be the same." ?
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How slow is it possible to be? :-D
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My statement was:
"There is but one speed v = ~ 0.999668?c"
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your response was:
  "THEN, the time dilation must be the same."
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GET this: The statement:
"When an object has a speed v, then time dilation must be the same"
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is an idiotic, nonsensical, meaningless, stupid response.
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Paul, the math does not cause time dilation. When the speed is the same
in both places, what is the cause? You have no idea
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And you repeat your nonsensical statement yet again!
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The measured mean lifetime of a stationary muon is 2.2 ?s
The measured mean lifetime of a muon moving at 0.999668?c is 85.36 ?s.
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These are measured facts, not math.
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Can you give another interpretation of the facts than "time dilation"?
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Indeed. The mere existence of muon storage rings
already proves time dilatatation.
The things would be practically impossible
if the relativistic circulating muons
were to decay at their rest rate,
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Jan
Thank you for acknowledging they decay at a different rate as that is a
different lifetime and not time dilation. That is extraordinarily
reasonable of you! What causes this different rate according to
relativity?

Date Sujet#  Auteur
31 Mar 25 * Albert in Relativityland21LaurenceClarkCrossen
1 Apr19:54 `* Re: Albert in Relativityland20Paul.B.Andersen
1 Apr19:57  +- Re: Albert in Relativityland1Maciej Wozniak
1 Apr20:28  `* Re: Albert in Relativityland18LaurenceClarkCrossen
2 Apr10:13   `* Re: Albert in Relativityland17Paul.B.Andersen
2 Apr19:25    `* Re: Albert in Relativityland16LaurenceClarkCrossen
3 Apr10:08     `* Re: Albert in Relativityland15Paul.B.Andersen
3 Apr11:07      +- Re: Albert in Relativityland1Maciej Wozniak
3 Apr13:08      +- Re: Albert in Relativityland1Richard Hachel
3 Apr22:06      +* Re: Albert in Relativityland4LaurenceClarkCrossen
4 Apr11:33      i`* Re: Albert in Relativityland3Paul.B.Andersen
4 Apr11:38      i +- Re: Albert in Relativityland1Maciej Wozniak
4 Apr22:28      i `- Re: Albert in Relativityland1LaurenceClarkCrossen
4 Apr08:50      `* Re: Albert in Relativityland8J. J. Lodder
4 Apr20:18       +* Re: Albert in Relativityland5Schaun Takenouchi
6 Apr06:00       i`* Re: Albert in Relativityland4Maciej Wozniak
6 Apr07:23       i `* Re: Albert in Relativityland3Rexford Ling
6 Apr08:31       i  +- Re: Albert in Relativityland1J. J. Lodder
6 Apr14:06       i  `- Re: Albert in Relativityland1Vadim Jing
4 Apr22:20       `* Re: Albert in Relativityland2LaurenceClarkCrossen
5 Apr09:20        `- Re: Albert in Relativityland1Paul.B.Andersen

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