Re: Muon paradox

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Sujet : Re: Muon paradox
De : mlwozniak (at) *nospam* wp.pl (Maciej Wozniak)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 06. Apr 2025, 06:03:55
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W dniu 05.04.2025 o 11:32, Paul.B.Andersen pisze:
Den 04.04.2025 23:15, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen:
On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 12:55:38 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
>
A muon has a mean lifetime = 2.2 μs in its rest frame.
The same muon, at the same time, has a mean lifetime 85.36 μs
in the Earth-frame.
>
Time dilation is the phenomenon that the measured time
between two events on an object's world-line depend
on the frame of reference in which it is measured.
>
The 2.2 μs and 85.36 μs are two different times between
the same two events on the same muon.
The difference is that the two times are measured in two
different frames of reference.
>
 
The muons move ten times further down in Earth's atmosphere than they
are expected to from measurements in the laboratory of their lifetimes
and speeds. This is not a matter of perspective or reference frames.
 The "time dilation" is exactly as expected and predicted by SR.
 
>
You have proven unable to even attempt to explain the cause of the time
dilation of the muons coming from high in Earth's atmosphere according
to relativity.
 Didn't you read the above?
 So read it now:
 A muon has a mean lifetime = 2.2 μs in its rest frame.
The same muon, at the same time, has a mean lifetime 85.36 μs
in the Earth-frame.
 Time dilation is the phenomenon that the measured time
between two events on an object's world-line depend
on the frame of reference in which it is measured.
 The 2.2 μs and 85.36 μs are two different times between
the same two events on the same muon.
The difference is that the two times are measured in two
different frames of reference.
 
>
Time dilation is not a phenomenon.
 Call it whatever you want.
 "Time dilation" as predicted by SR is _proven_ to exist.
In the meantime in the real world, however,
forbidden by your absurd religion improper
clocks keep measuring improper t'=t in
improper seconds.

The muon has but one life. It is this one life that
is 2.2 μs when measured in the rest frame of the muon,
A lie, of course, no such measurement has
ever been made and a muon doesn't even
have a rest frame.

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