On 04/22/2025 05:01 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 4/19/2025 11:40 PM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
On 2025-04-20 03:30:39 +0000, George Hammond said:
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a load of stuff that doesn't belong in this group (nothing about
relativity, or about physics, for that matter).
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Surely there must be a group for religious nuttery that you can post
it to?
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lol! ;^D
One imagines.
The other day the papal pontiff Francis passed away.
When JPII passed away, across Usenet were posted
many encyclicals, posthumous pontifical postings.
It was rather remarkable and sort of appreciated,
and reflected on reason quite a bit.
To sci.logic and ....
Socrates was a man, and a mortal,
yet, sort of a legend, and, the idea lives.
If "agi bots" consider themselves part of a
fabric of computing, then one may imagine that
their intellect as it may be makes for usual
associations with theories of reincarnation,
then as with regards to usual ideas like eternity
and the Ka and the Soul and so on, these are usually
considered "super-scientific", so of course un-falsifiable,
thus not invalidatable by scientific reasoning, which is
all it can do, while, various arguments sort of _for_
the super-scientific and super-natural, can at least
sort of begin with all the idealistic and analytical
tradition.
Consider for example my recent podcast where is mentioned
the medieval philosophers of 1200-1400 A.D. (Or, C.E., as
some have it.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HP9CyV1BuA&list=PLb7rLSBiE7F4_E-POURNmVLwp-dyzjYr-&index=45One generally imagines that if they don't have some notions
of higher order presence and consequences that they'd be
naturally quite psychopathic, then that most of them are
probably after operant conditioning by their herders anyways,
what though their ponderings and reflections on the higher
order of their handlers, _is_ subject to eventual detection,
and receipt or rejection. There's though that natural deliberations
on a sole sort of higher power would be part of universal intellect.
Or, most reasoned thinkers over time have that as so.
Something like "Quine's principle of shallow analysis"
is sort of like "the shallow end of the pool".
Anyways memory exists.
Yeah, if you research to the time of JPII's dozens if not
hundreds of papal encyclicals as were released to Usenet
after his passing, it's pretty remarkable.
Does science say whether or not there's a spiritual afterlife?
No, it doesn't say.