Re: The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted.

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Sujet : Re: The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted.
De : mikko.levanto (at) *nospam* iki.fi (Mikko)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 29. Apr 2025, 12:40:21
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On 2025-04-28 18:27:54 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen said:

On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 9:29:52 +0000, Mikko wrote:
 
On 2025-04-25 16:10:42 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen said:
 
This metric doubles the Newtonian deflection, so the relativity
derivation is invalid.
 "Using the Newton’s Theory of Gravity to Calculate the
Deflection of Light in the Solar System and the Orbital
Poles of Light’s Motion of General Relativity"
Mei Xiaochun
 Actual measurements of the deflection support General Relativity.
So do the measurements of light travel times. Newtonian gravity
does not say anything about light. With the additional hypthesis
that light is a stream of particles with small but non-zero mass,
which hypothesis is compatible with Newtonian optics, the deflection
can be computed. The result is refuted by observations but Newtonian
gravity without the additional hypthesis is not refuted.

Experimental results cannot provide evidence for a fallacious derivation
because that derivation can not predict.
That's right. Only a mathematical derivation can, and only if done correctly.

You have forgotten that Galileo proved all masses are affected the same
by gravity.
Irrelevant. The important point is that GR says the same (as long as the
masses are small enough that they don't affect the sources of gravity).

I take it you mean that adding curved space to Newtonian is not refuted.
That does not make sense. A Galilean space, where the spatial gemotry
is Euclidean, is an essential part of Newton's theory. If a curved
space is allowed then all consequences of Galilean geometry must be
reconsidered, which Newton didn't do.

It has not been proven because it hasn't been predicted when the
derivation is faulty.
You haven't presented any derivation, faulty or otherwise.
--
Mikko

Date Sujet#  Auteur
25 Apr 25 * The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted.25LaurenceClarkCrossen
25 Apr 25 +- Re: The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted.1Ernestor Babushkin Seow
25 Apr 25 +- Re: The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted.1LaurenceClarkCrossen
25 Apr 25 +* Re: The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted.16LaurenceClarkCrossen
26 Apr 25 i`* Re: The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted.15Paul.B.Andersen
26 Apr 25 i +* Re: The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted.3LaurenceClarkCrossen
27 Apr 25 i i`* Re: The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted.2Paul.B.Andersen
27 Apr 25 i i `- Re: The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted.1Darwin Balakshin
27 Apr 25 i `* Re: The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted.11LaurenceClarkCrossen
27 Apr 25 i  `* Re: The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted.10Paul.B.Andersen
27 Apr 25 i   +- Re: The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted.1Trinidad Dogadaev
27 Apr 25 i   `* Re: The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted.8LaurenceClarkCrossen
28 Apr 25 i    +- Re: The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted.1Mikko
28 Apr 25 i    `* Re: The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted.6Paul.B.Andersen
28 Apr 25 i     +- Re: The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted.1Maciej Woźniak
28 Apr 25 i     +- Re: The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted.1Ross Finlayson
28 Apr 25 i     `* Re: The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted.3LaurenceClarkCrossen
29 Apr 25 i      `* Re: The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted.2Paul.B.Andersen
29 Apr 25 i       `- Re: The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted.1Charlton Bajinov
28 Apr 25 `* Re: The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted.6Mikko
28 Apr 25  +- Re: The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted.1Maciej Woźniak
28 Apr 25  `* Re: The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted.4LaurenceClarkCrossen
28 Apr 25   +- Re: The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted.1Ross Finlayson
29 Apr 25   +- Re: The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted.1Mikko
29 Apr 25   `- Re: The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted.1Paul.B.Andersen

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