Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.

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Sujet : Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.
De : hitlong (at) *nospam* yahoo.com (gharnagel)
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Date : 30. Apr 2025, 20:44:26
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On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 14:18:34 +0000, Ross Finlayson wrote:
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On 04/30/2025 06:41 AM, gharnagel wrote:
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I find the AI discourse rather shallow.  There were no mentions of
more recent experiments which support relativity not at all dependent
on muons:
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https://www.nist.gov/news-events/news/2010/09/nist-pair-aluminum-atomic-clocks-reveal-einsteins-relativity-personal-scale
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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5253894/
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"Relativity in the Global Positioning System"
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https://www.nature.com/articles/nature01997
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"A test of general relativity using radio links with the Cassini
spacecraft"
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On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 3:42:29 +0000, Ross Finlayson wrote:
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Gravitational singularities rather exist, even if as regards to
the "cosmic censorship" or "raw singularities", the wobbles as
they may be result an unboundedly large concentration even if
with a vanishingly small extent or duration.
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Singularities only appear in theories, not in reality.  Their
presence indicates that the theory has exceeded its domain of
applicability.
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Mathematics _owes_ physics better mathematics of infinities
and singularities, because infinitesimals and multiplicities
are in effect in dynamics of continuous change.
There has been considerable interplay between mathematicians and
physicists.  Mathematicians invented complex analysis and Laplace
transforms. which are used by physicists and engineers.  The Euler
function had no practical use until physicists noticed that it
seemed to predict baryon masses, which then led to string theory
and brane theory.

Singularity theories are just half-accounts of multiplicity theories.
“as far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are
not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer
to reality” -- Albert Einstein

When they asked Einstein "is the universe infinite" he said
something along the lines of "it isn't not".
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity,
and I'm not sure about the former."  -- Albert Einstein

It's pretty well agreed we're looking at a field theory
and a gauge theory and over a continuous manifold,
I'm not sure about that.  Those are mathematical models
of reality (see the first Einstein quote above).

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So, the "domain of applicability" here is "a physics",
Actually, it's a limit on a model.  If you want a larger
domain, get a new model.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
29 Apr 25 * I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.24rhertz
30 Apr 25 +* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.20Octaviano Russkikh Huan
30 Apr 25 i+* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.18rhertz
30 Apr 25 ii`* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.17Ross Finlayson
30 Apr 25 ii `* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.16gharnagel
30 Apr 25 ii  `* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.15Ross Finlayson
30 Apr 25 ii   `* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.14gharnagel
30 Apr 25 ii    +- Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.1Dameian Babayan
1 May 25 ii    `* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.12Ross Finlayson
1 May 25 ii     `* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.11gharnagel
1 May 25 ii      +* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.6rhertz
1 May 25 ii      i`* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.5gharnagel
1 May 25 ii      i `* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.4rhertz
2 May 25 ii      i  `* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.3gharnagel
2 May 25 ii      i   +- Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.1Maciej Woźniak
2 May 25 ii      i   `- Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.1Yunesky Zhigmytov Ping
1 May 25 ii      `* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.4Ross Finlayson
1 May 25 ii       `* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.3Ross Finlayson
1 May 25 ii        `* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.2gharnagel
2 May 25 ii         `- Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.1Ross Finlayson
30 Apr 25 i`- Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.1Alexey Mulatov
30 Apr 25 `* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.3Ezekiel Bazunov
1 May 25  `* Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that Hafele-Keating 1971 experiment was A HOAX.2Sibtain Haritonov
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