Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also.

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Sujet : Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also.
De : clzb93ynxj (at) *nospam* att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativity
Date : 30. May 2025, 21:45:33
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On Fri, 30 May 2025 19:42:54 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

Den 30.05.2025 00:08, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen:
On Thu, 29 May 2025 19:31:57 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
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Den 27.05.2025 17:49, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen:
On Tue, 27 May 2025 9:37:57 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
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Den 27.05.2025 05:27, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen:
Particle wave duality is no longer accepted as it has been
experimentally disproven.
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"Did We Get the Double Slit Experiment All Wrong?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpMcC-E5l5c
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Light is a wave and not a particle.
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She disagreed with the article, saying the dark photons have no energy,
unlike particles.
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This is what "she" in the video said about the new theory:
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"Honestly when I read the headline, I thought this is bullshit.
  But having read the paper I think it's a matter of framing.
  This is a genuinely interesting new way to think about an old
  experiment. But I don't think that talking about dark states
  of light is going to make quantum physics any less confusing."
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This means that she accept the "new theory" as a possibly
valid alternative theory to QED.
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That may be so, but if it is valid, it would have to predict
the same as QED for any experiment.
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I think the world will stick to QED.
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In either case, in quantum field theories, light is a particle.
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But remember that a theory of physics is a mathematical model
of Nature, it is not the Nature.
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In QED light is a particle.
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In Maxwell's theory, light is a wave.
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There is no duality in either of the theories.
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QED has a broader field of applicability than Maxwell,
it predicts some phenomena Maxwell doesn't.
(e.g. photon-electron interactions)
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But the telecommunication we now are using to communicate
is made possible because of Maxwell.
So it is OK to consider light to be a wave according to Maxwell
in some cases. So if you are designing a radio link, Maxwell
is the theory to use,
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But there is no way a wave can excite an electron to a higher
energy level, only particles can do that.
QED can predict that a LED will emit light.
Maxwell can't.
That they have no energy, unlike particles, shows they are not
particles.
In any case, it was the double slit experiment that disproved the
particle theory and continues to do so. Claiming that particles of light
are inserted presumes what you want to conclude. That they then behave
like waves proves they weren't photons.
Mathematical models divorced from nature are divorced from physics.
QED is divorced from nature and physics when it claims light is a
particle.
The photoelectric effect is explained fine with light as a wave.
You think that the heat of light cannot excite electrons to a higher
energy level.

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