Re: Everyone on this forum besides Keith has been a damned liar about this point

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Sujet : Re: Everyone on this forum besides Keith has been a damned liar about this point
De : dbush.mobile (at) *nospam* gmail.com (dbush)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logic comp.ai.philosophy
Date : 09. Jun 2025, 18:07:41
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On 6/9/2025 1:03 PM, olcott wrote:
On 6/9/2025 11:52 AM, dbush wrote:
On 6/9/2025 12:39 PM, olcott wrote:
On 6/9/2025 11:33 AM, dbush wrote:
On 6/9/2025 12:24 PM, olcott wrote:
On 6/9/2025 11:12 AM, dbush wrote:
On 6/9/2025 12:06 PM, olcott wrote:
>
By replying to a yes or no question with the full
and complete justification forces the respondent
to look more deeply into these things than simply
dismissing a view out-of-hand without review.
>
But by not including the yes or no you dishonestly dodge the question.
>
>
Not at all. Not in the least little bit. By forcing my
reviewers to point out an error in my actual reasoning
I prove who is the actual ignorant one.
>
And since your reasoning is that the input to HHH(DDD) only includes the code of the function DDD as you've stated below,
>
*In other words you are too stupid to understand this*
>
void DDD()
{
   HHH(DDD);
   return;
}
>
The *input* to simulating termination analyzer HHH(DDD)
specifies recursive simulation that can never reach its
*simulated "return" instruction final halt state*
>
*Every rebuttal to this changes the words*
>
>
Repeat of original point, previously refuted (see below)
>
 If you disagree with the above you are disagreeing
with a self-evident truth.
 
I see you made no attempt to refute what I said, confirming your agreement.
Also:
On 6/9/2025 10:55 AM, olcott wrote:
 > It is proven that you are a liar by the part of
 > my reply that you erased.

 
This constitutes your admission that every counterpoint made since then is *correct*, including but not limited to:
 * The input to HHH(DDD) consists of only the code of the function DDD
* Halt deciders / termination analyzers accept as input the description / specification of an algorithm
* You're not actually working on the halting problem as your HHH doesn't work with the above
* You dishonestly dodge direct yes or no questions
   On 6/8/2025 11:08 PM, dbush wrote:
 > On 6/8/2025 10:50 PM, olcott wrote:
 >> void DDD()
 >> {
 >>    HHH(DDD);
 >>    return;
 >> }
 >>
 >> The *input* to simulating termination analyzer HHH(DDD)
 >
 > No it's not, as halt deciders / termination analyzers work with
 > algorithms, but you HHH does not by your own admission:

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