Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES

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Sujet : Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES
De : richard (at) *nospam* damon-family.org (Richard Damon)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logic comp.ai.philosophy
Date : 16. Jun 2024, 00:37:27
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Organisation : i2pn2 (i2pn.org)
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On 6/15/24 7:30 PM, olcott wrote:
On 6/15/2024 6:01 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 6/15/24 5:56 PM, olcott wrote:
On 6/15/2024 11:33 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 6/15/24 12:22 PM, olcott wrote:
On 6/13/2024 8:24 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
 > On 6/13/24 11:32 AM, olcott wrote:
 >>
 >> It is contingent upon you to show the exact steps of how H computes
 >> the mapping from the x86 machine language finite string input to
 >> H(D,D) using the finite string transformation rules specified by
 >> the semantics of the x86 programming language that reaches the
 >> behavior of the directly executed D(D)
 >>
 >
 > Why? I don't claim it can.
>
The first six steps of this mapping are when instructions
at the machine address range of [00000cfc] to [00000d06]
are simulated/executed.
>
After that the behavior of D correctly simulated by H diverges
from the behavior of D(D) because the call to H(D,D) by D
correctly simulated by H cannot possibly return to D.
>
Nope, the steps of D correctly simulated by H will EXACTLY match the steps of D directly executed, until H just gives up and guesses.
>
>
When we can see that D correctly simulated by H cannot possibly
reach its simulated final state at machine address [00000d1d]
after one recursive simulation and the same applies for 2,3,...N
recursive simulations then we can abort the simulated input and
correctly report that D correctly simulated by H DOES NOT HALT.
>
Nope. Because an aborted simulation doesn't say anything about Halting,
>
 It is the mathematical induction that says this.
 
WHAT "Mathematical Induction"?
You haven't shown the required pieces for an inductive proof.
I doubt you even know what you need to do, let alone be able to do it.

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15 Jun 24 * H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES44olcott
15 Jun 24 +* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES19Richard Damon
15 Jun 24 i`* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES18olcott
16 Jun 24 i `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES17Richard Damon
16 Jun 24 i  `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES16olcott
16 Jun 24 i   `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES15Richard Damon
16 Jun 24 i    `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES14olcott
16 Jun 24 i     `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES13Richard Damon
16 Jun 24 i      `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES12olcott
16 Jun 24 i       `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES11Richard Damon
16 Jun 24 i        `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES10olcott
16 Jun 24 i         +- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES1Richard Damon
16 Jun 24 i         `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES8Mikko
16 Jun 24 i          `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES7olcott
16 Jun 24 i           +- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES1Richard Damon
17 Jun 24 i           `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES5Mikko
17 Jun 24 i            `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES4olcott
18 Jun 24 i             `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES3Mikko
18 Jun 24 i              `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES2olcott
18 Jun 24 i               `- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES1Mikko
16 Jun 24 `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES24Mikko
16 Jun 24  `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES23olcott
16 Jun 24   +- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES1Richard Damon
17 Jun 24   `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES21Mikko
17 Jun 24    `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES20olcott
18 Jun 24     +- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES1Richard Damon
18 Jun 24     `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES18Mikko
18 Jun 24      `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES17olcott
18 Jun 24       `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES16Mikko
18 Jun 24        +* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES5olcott
19 Jun 24        i`* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES4Mikko
19 Jun 24        i +* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES2olcott
20 Jun 24        i i`- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES1Mikko
20 Jun 24        i `- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES1olcott
18 Jun 24        `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES10olcott
19 Jun 24         `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES9Fred. Zwarts
19 Jun 24          `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES8olcott
19 Jun 24           `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES7Fred. Zwarts
19 Jun 24            `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES6olcott
19 Jun 24             `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES5Fred. Zwarts
19 Jun 24              `* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES4olcott
19 Jun 24               +* Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES2Alan Mackenzie
19 Jun 24               i`- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES1olcott
20 Jun 24               `- Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V3 ---IGNORING ALL OTHER REPLIES1Fred. Zwarts

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