Re: Everyone on this forum besides Keith has been a damned liar about this point

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Sujet : Re: Everyone on this forum besides Keith has been a damned liar about this point
De : richard (at) *nospam* damon-family.org (Richard Damon)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logic comp.ai.philosophy
Date : 09. Jun 2025, 12:24:36
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On 6/8/25 10:50 PM, olcott wrote:
void DDD()
{
   HHH(DDD);
   return;
}
 The *input* to simulating termination analyzer HHH(DDD)
specifies recursive simulation that can never reach its
*simulated "return" instruction final halt state*
 *Every rebuttal to this changes the words*
 
So, you think a partial simulation defines behavior?
Where do you get that LIE from?
EVERY PROGRAM (you need to make DDD into a program by including the codee of the PROGRAM HHH that it calls, so that needs to be defined too) that uses an HHH that returns an answer for HHH(DDD), which is a requirement for HHH to be a decider for this input, will HALT when run or correctly *and thus completely) emulated.
The fact that HHH stops before it gets there is just your strawman that you use to LIE about the behavior.
Your problem is that by your own words you have admitted to a category error, and thus that you claim is just a lie.

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10 Jun 25 i i i   i i                    +- It has always been impossible to define an INPUT that does the opposite of its halt decider1olcott
10 Jun 25 i i i   i i                    `* Re: Everyone on this forum besides Keith has been a damned liar about this point3olcott
10 Jun 25 i i i   i i                     `* Re: Everyone on this forum besides Keith has been a damned liar about this point2Richard Damon
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10 Jun 25 i i +* Mike can't even count to eight --- HHH(DDD)2olcott
10 Jun 25 i i i`- Re: Mike can't even count to eight --- HHH(DDD)1Richard Damon
14 Jun 25 i i `* The input to HHH(DDD) specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations +++7olcott
15 Jun 25 i i  `* Re: The input to HHH(DDD) specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations +++6Fred. Zwarts
15 Jun 25 i i   +* Re: The input to HHH(DDD) specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations +++3olcott
15 Jun 25 i i   i+- Re: The input to HHH(DDD) specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations +++1Richard Damon
16 Jun 25 i i   i`- Re: The input to HHH(DDD) specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations +++1Fred. Zwarts
15 Jun 25 i i   `* Re: The input to HHH(DDD) specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations +++2olcott
16 Jun 25 i i    `- Re: The input to HHH(DDD) specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations +++1Fred. Zwarts
9 Jun 25 i `* Re: Everyone on this forum besides Keith has been a damned liar about this point2Richard Damon
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9 Jun 25 +- Re: Everyone on this forum besides Keith has been a damned liar about this point1Keith Thompson
9 Jun 25 `* Re: Everyone on this forum besides Keith has been a damned liar about this point5Richard Damon
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14 Jun 25   `* The input to HHH(DDD) specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations +++3olcott
15 Jun 25    `* Re: The input to HHH(DDD) specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations +++2Fred. Zwarts
15 Jun 25     `- Re: The input to HHH(DDD) specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations +++1olcott

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