Sujet : Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)
De : noreply (at) *nospam* example.org (joes)
Groupes : sci.mathDate : 16. Dec 2024, 12:55:23
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Am Mon, 16 Dec 2024 09:30:18 +0100 schrieb WM:
On 15.12.2024 21:21, joes wrote:
Am Sun, 15 Dec 2024 16:25:55 +0100 schrieb WM:
On 15.12.2024 12:15, joes wrote:
Am Sat, 14 Dec 2024 17:00:43 +0100 schrieb WM:
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That pairs the elements of D with the elements of ℕ. Alas, it
can be proved that for every interval [1, n] the deficit of hats
amounts to at least 90 %. And beyond all n, there are no further
hats.
But we aren't dealing with intervals of [1, n] but of the full
set.
Those who try to forbid the detailed analysis are dishonest
swindlers and tricksters and not worth to participate in
scientific discussion.
No, we are not forbiding "detailed" analysis
Then deal with all infinitely many intervals [1, n].
??? The bijection is not finite.
Therefore we use all [1, n].
Those are all finite.
All n are finite.
Contrary to the bijection.
The problem is that you can't GET to "beyond all n" in the
pairing,
as there are always more n to get to.
If this is impossible, then also Cantor cannot use all n.
Why can't he? The problem is in the space of the full set, not the
finite sub sets.
The intervals [1, n] cover the full set.
Only in the limit.
With and without limit.
Wonrg. There is no natural n that „covers N”.
All intervals do it because there is no n outside of all intervals [1,
n]. My proof applies all intervals.
It does not. It applies to every single finite „interval” (whyever those
matter), but not to the whole N.
-- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math:It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.