Re: Replacement of Cardinality

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Sujet : Re: Replacement of Cardinality
De : james.g.burns (at) *nospam* att.net (Jim Burns)
Groupes : sci.logic sci.math
Date : 09. Aug 2024, 05:34:32
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On 8/8/2024 5:56 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson has brought this to us :
On 8/8/2024 3:30 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
on 8/8/2024, WM supposed :
Le 08/08/2024 à 00:17, Moebius a écrit :

Actually, his "thinking process" is simple:
"Since there is a gap (space) between adjacent unit fractions and all unit fractions are in the interval (0, 1], there must be FINITELY MANY of them (i.e. a first/smallest one)."
>
No, that is nonsense. There are not finitely many unit fractions.
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Then stop assuming that there is a first and last element.
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The first unit fraction is 1/1, there is no last one...
>
... or there is a last one but no first one.
... or
(here is the "infinite" difference:)
each linear order has SOME SUBSET which is
without a first or without a last.
My opinion is that WM's idea of 'finite' omits
the 'subset' part of that,
and he thinks that
a set ordered with two ends is
more complete than
the same set with one or zero ends.
So, we say 'finite' and 'infinite' meaning one thing
and WM says 'finite' and 'infinite' meaning another.
And then we're off to the races.

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26 Jul 24 * Replacement of Cardinality684WM
26 Jul 24 +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality2joes
27 Jul 24 i`- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1WM
27 Jul 24 +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality66Richard Damon
27 Jul 24 i`* Re: Replacement of Cardinality65WM
27 Jul 24 i `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality64Richard Damon
27 Jul 24 i  +- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1WM
27 Jul 24 i  +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality2joes
28 Jul 24 i  i`- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1WM
27 Jul 24 i  `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality60Richard Damon
28 Jul 24 i   `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality59WM
28 Jul 24 i    `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality58Richard Damon
29 Jul 24 i     `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality57WM
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30 Jul 24 i      `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality55Richard Damon
30 Jul 24 i       `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality54WM
31 Jul 24 i        `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality53Richard Damon
31 Jul 24 i         `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality52WM
31 Jul 24 i          +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality11joes
1 Aug 24 i          i`* Re: Replacement of Cardinality10WM
1 Aug 24 i          i +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality5Jim Burns
1 Aug 24 i          i i+- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Moebius
2 Aug 24 i          i i`* Re: Replacement of Cardinality3WM
2 Aug 24 i          i i `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality2Jim Burns
2 Aug 24 i          i i  `- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Moebius
2 Aug 24 i          i `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality4Richard Damon
2 Aug 24 i          i  `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality3WM
2 Aug 24 i          i   `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality2Richard Damon
2 Aug 24 i          i    `- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1WM
1 Aug 24 i          `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality40Richard Damon
1 Aug 24 i           `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality39WM
1 Aug 24 i            +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality29joes
2 Aug 24 i            i+* Re: Replacement of Cardinality27WM
2 Aug 24 i            ii`* Re: Replacement of Cardinality26Richard Damon
2 Aug 24 i            ii `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality25WM
2 Aug 24 i            ii  `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality24Richard Damon
2 Aug 24 i            ii   `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality23WM
2 Aug 24 i            ii    `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality22Richard Damon
3 Aug 24 i            ii     `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality21WM
3 Aug 24 i            ii      `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality20Richard Damon
4 Aug 24 i            ii       `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality19WM
4 Aug 24 i            ii        +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality5Richard Damon
5 Aug 24 i            ii        i`* Re: Replacement of Cardinality4WM
6 Aug 24 i            ii        i `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality3Richard Damon
6 Aug 24 i            ii        i  `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality2WM
7 Aug 24 i            ii        i   `- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Richard Damon
4 Aug 24 i            ii        `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality13Richard Damon
6 Aug 24 i            ii         `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality12Chris M. Thomasson
6 Aug 24 i            ii          `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality11Moebius
6 Aug 24 i            ii           +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality2Jim Burns
6 Aug 24 i            ii           i`- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Moebius
6 Aug 24 i            ii           `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality8Chris M. Thomasson
6 Aug 24 i            ii            +- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1FromTheRafters
6 Aug 24 i            ii            `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality6Moebius
6 Aug 24 i            ii             +- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Moebius
7 Aug 24 i            ii             `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality4Chris M. Thomasson
7 Aug 24 i            ii              `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality3Moebius
7 Aug 24 i            ii               +- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Moebius
16 Aug 24 i            ii               `- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Chris M. Thomasson
2 Aug 24 i            i`- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1WM
2 Aug 24 i            `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality9Richard Damon
2 Aug 24 i             `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality8WM
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2 Aug 24 i              i`- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1WM
2 Aug 24 i              `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality5Richard Damon
2 Aug 24 i               `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality4WM
2 Aug 24 i                `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality3Richard Damon
3 Aug 24 i                 `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality2WM
3 Aug 24 i                  `- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Richard Damon
27 Jul 24 +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality20Mikko
27 Jul 24 i`* Re: Replacement of Cardinality19WM
29 Jul 24 i `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality18Mikko
29 Jul 24 i  `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality17WM
30 Jul 24 i   +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality3Richard Damon
30 Jul 24 i   i`* Re: Replacement of Cardinality2WM
31 Jul 24 i   i `- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Richard Damon
30 Jul 24 i   `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality13Mikko
30 Jul 24 i    `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality12WM
31 Jul 24 i     `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality11Mikko
31 Jul 24 i      `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality10WM
2 Aug 24 i       `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality9Mikko
2 Aug 24 i        `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality8WM
2 Aug 24 i         +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality5Richard Damon
2 Aug 24 i         i`* Re: Replacement of Cardinality4WM
2 Aug 24 i         i `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality3Richard Damon
3 Aug 24 i         i  `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality2WM
3 Aug 24 i         i   `- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Richard Damon
3 Aug 24 i         `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality2Mikko
3 Aug 24 i          `- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1WM
27 Jul 24 `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality595Jim Burns
28 Jul 24  +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality585WM
28 Jul 24  i`* Re: Replacement of Cardinality584Jim Burns
29 Jul 24  i +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality33Ross Finlayson
29 Jul 24  i i`* Re: Replacement of Cardinality32Ross Finlayson
29 Jul 24  i i `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality31Ross Finlayson
29 Jul 24  i i  `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality30Jim Burns
29 Jul 24  i i   `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality29Ross Finlayson
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29 Jul 24  i i    `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality27Jim Burns
30 Jul 24  i i     `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals)26Ross Finlayson
30 Jul 24  i i      +- Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals)1Ross Finlayson
30 Jul 24  i i      `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals)24Jim Burns
29 Jul 24  i +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality549WM
29 Jul 24  i `- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Moebius
29 Jul 24  `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality9Moebius

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