Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)

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Sujet : Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)
De : chris.m.thomasson.1 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Chris M. Thomasson)
Groupes : sci.math
Date : 02. Dec 2024, 00:11:41
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On 11/30/2024 3:12 AM, WM wrote:
On 30.11.2024 11:57, FromTheRafters wrote:
WM explained :
On 29.11.2024 22:50, FromTheRafters wrote:
WM wrote on 11/29/2024 :
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The size of the intersection remains infinite as long as all endsegments remain infinite (= as long as only infinite endsegments are considered).
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Endsegments are defined as infinite,
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Endsegments are defined as endsegments. They have been defined by myself many years ago.
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As what is left after not considering a finite initial segment in your new set and considering only the tail of the sequence.
 Not quite but roughly. The precise definitions are:
Finite initial segment F(n) = {1, 2, 3, ..., n}.
Finite? Huh? The natural numbers don't stop at n! WTF!!!!  Lay off the drugs.

Endsegment E(n) = {n, n+1, n+2, ...}

 
Almost all elements are considered in the new set, which means all endsegments are infinite.
 Every n that can be chosen has infinitely many successors. Every n that can be chosen therefore belongs to a collection that is finite but variable.
 
Try to understand inclusion monotony. The sequence of endsegments decreases.
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In what manner are they decreasing?
 They are losing elements, one after the other:
∀k ∈ ℕ : E(k+1) = E(k) \ {k}
But each endsegment has only one element less than its predecessor.
 
When you filter out the FISON, the rest, the tail, as a set, stays the same size of aleph_zero.
 For all endsegments which are infinite and therefore have an infinite intersection.
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As long as it has not decreased below ℵo elements, the intersection has not decreased below ℵo elements.
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It doesn't decrease in size at all.
 Then also the size of the intersection does not decrease.
Look: when endsegments can lose all elements without becoming empty, then also their intersection can lose all elements without becoming empty. What would make a difference?
 Regards, WM
 

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