Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski

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Date : 10. Feb 2025, 12:48:16
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On 2/10/2025 2:55 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2025-02-09 13:10:37 +0000, Richard Damon said:
 
On 2/9/25 5:33 AM, Mikko wrote:
Of course, completness can be achieved if language is sufficiently
restricted so that sufficiently many arithemtic truths become inexpressible.
>
It is far from clear that a theory of that kind can express all arithmetic
truths that Peano arithmetic can and avoid its incompletness.
>
WHich, it seems, are the only type of logic system that Peter can understand.
>
He can only think in primitive logic systems that can't reach the complexity needed for the proofs he talks about, but can't see the problem, as he just doesn't understand the needed concepts.
 That would be OK if he wouldn't try to solve problems that cannot even
exist in those systems.
 
There are no problems than cannot be solved in a system
that can also reject semantically incorrect expressions.
On 2/8/2025 9:51 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
 > then there's a Comenius language of it that only
 > truisms are well-formed formulas...
We can easily extend the Comenius language to evaluate
FALSE as well as TRUE by allowing True(L, x) to also
evaluate True(L, ~x).
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31 Jan 25 * Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception437olcott
31 Jan 25 +* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception19Richard Damon
31 Jan 25 i`* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception18olcott
31 Jan 25 i `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception17Richard Damon
31 Jan 25 i  `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception16olcott
31 Jan 25 i   `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception15Richard Damon
31 Jan 25 i    `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception14olcott
1 Feb 25 i     `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception13Richard Damon
1 Feb 25 i      `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception12olcott
1 Feb 25 i       `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception11Richard Damon
1 Feb 25 i        `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception10olcott
1 Feb 25 i         `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception9Richard Damon
3 Feb 25 i          +* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception6olcott
4 Feb 25 i          i`* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception5Richard Damon
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5 Feb 25 i          i  `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception3Richard Damon
5 Feb 25 i          i   `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception2olcott
6 Feb 25 i          i    `- Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception1Richard Damon
3 Feb 25 i          `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception [CORRECTION]2olcott
4 Feb 25 i           `- Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception [CORRECTION]1Richard Damon
31 Jan 25 `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception417Mikko
31 Jan 25  `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception416olcott
31 Jan 25   +- Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception1Richard Damon
1 Feb 25   `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception414Mikko
1 Feb 25    `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception413olcott
1 Feb 25     +- Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception1Richard Damon
2 Feb 25     `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception411Mikko
3 Feb 25      `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception410olcott
3 Feb 25       +* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception408Mikko
3 Feb 25       i`* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception407olcott
4 Feb 25       i `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception406Mikko
4 Feb 25       i  `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception405olcott
5 Feb 25       i   `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception404Mikko
5 Feb 25       i    `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception403olcott
6 Feb 25       i     +- Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception1Richard Damon
6 Feb 25       i     `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception401Mikko
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6 Feb 25       i       +- Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski1Richard Damon
7 Feb 25       i       `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski398Mikko
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8 Feb 25       i          `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski395olcott
8 Feb 25       i           +* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski24Ross Finlayson
8 Feb 25       i           i+- Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski --- YES !!!1olcott
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11 Feb 25       i           i    i      +* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski2olcott
12 Feb 25       i           i    i      i`- Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski1Mikko
11 Feb 25       i           i    i      `- Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski1Ross Finlayson
11 Feb 25       i           i    `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski7Ross Finlayson
11 Feb 25       i           i     +* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski3olcott
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