There is no logic here (Was: Quine's "Word & Object")

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De : julio (at) *nospam* diegidio.name (Julio Di Egidio)
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Date : 23. Mar 2025, 14:49:29
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On 23/03/2025 03:46, Ross Finlayson wrote:

If you start taking a look at Word & Object, Quine is
plenty voluble about modern logics' efforts, and problems.
 Which he phrases in nice sorts of ways as sort of allusion
to criticism then though sometimes the waffling.
 Strawson though stands out as sort of uncontradicted,
especially when Quine's "relevance" is sort of the
opposite of what's usually meant, for relevance logic.
 Yet, then Strawson also himself wrote himself into
the corner of modern logic, though at least he's less
Says who?  Rather one is a logicist and the lying with numbers,
the other is a logician proper: guess who's who.
Just take "Sinn und Bedeutung": how to build a whole edifice
on the basis on the systematic misplacement and misuse of even
the most basic philosophical (in the broad sense) notions.
Which is but one little example out of the whole edifice of
our inculture and incivilization: insanity, alienation, abuse,
and the systematic lying.
Indeed, Strawson isn't less misrepresented then ignored than
Socrates vs Plato/Aristotle, or Leibniz vs Kant/Newton, or the
first Wittgenstein vs Frege/Russell...
Rather, read Strawson's "Introduction to Logical Theory" if you
want to know what (modern) Logic actually is: or, would/could/
should/used to be.  Or, is.
-Julio

Date Sujet#  Auteur
22 Mar 25 * Quine's "Word & Object"10Ross Finlayson
23 Mar 25 `* Re: Quine's "Word & Object"9Ross Finlayson
23 Mar 25  `* There is no logic here (Was: Quine's "Word & Object")8Julio Di Egidio
23 Mar 25   +- Re: There is no logic here (Was: Quine's "Word & Object")1Julio Di Egidio
23 Mar 25   +- Re: There is no logic here (Was: Quine's "Word & Object")1Julio Di Egidio
23 Mar 25   `* Re: There is no logic here (Was: Quine's "Word & Object")5Ross Finlayson
23 Mar 25    `* Re: There is no logic here (Was: Quine's "Word & Object")4Julio Di Egidio
23 Mar 25     +- Re: There is no logic here (Was: Quine's "Word & Object")1Julio Di Egidio
23 Mar 25     `* Re: There is no logic here (Was: Quine's "Word & Object")2Ross Finlayson
23 Mar 25      `- Re: There is no logic here (Was: Quine's "Word & Object")1Ross Finlayson

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