Re: There is no logic here (Was: Quine's "Word & Object")

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Sujet : Re: There is no logic here (Was: Quine's "Word & Object")
De : ross.a.finlayson (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Ross Finlayson)
Groupes : sci.logic sci.math
Date : 23. Mar 2025, 18:40:32
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On 03/23/2025 09:11 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
On 03/23/2025 08:44 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
On 23/03/2025 16:19, Ross Finlayson wrote:
On 03/23/2025 06:49 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
On 23/03/2025 03:46, Ross Finlayson wrote:
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Sort of like W.H.F. Barnes or R.G. Collingwood, yet really for
both Kant and Hegel, who both had both a strong analytical
and thoroughly idealistic course, has that Quine's wrestling
with concepts of logical paradox, never sees him quite win,
which can only result from resolving them.
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I do have given you a/the resolution, then you keep calling
*me* an/the idealist.  Indeed, if all you have is a/that
hammer, ideally then materially, *and* not giving it up.
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Thanks for your reply, and please explain how there can be
a true theory overall at all, vis-a-vis some ideal Comenius
language and our mere human inter-subjective Coleridge language,
that there is one at all results from plain reason.
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You are welcome.  The short answer there is: your question
is as ill-founded as your "philosophy" (your dictionary and
index); indeed, who said Logic is about "ultimate truth(s?)"?
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Related: what is Philosophy?
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-Julio
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Well, for a sort of, "cyclic metaphysics", is that for a
theory altogether, there either is or isn't the metaphysics,
and the idea is that the metaphysics is a word and so it
does exist then that the, Ding-an-Sich, as it were, Kant's
"thing in itself", is a sort of extra-ordinary theory,
that mathematically then is for extra-ordinary infinites,
that reflect _inversion_ instead of _contradiction_ since
all of logic can be built in a principle of _inversion_
instead of _contradiction_ to satisfy a satisfying
"Principle of Sufficient Reason".
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Then, indeed it's "A Theory" that is the goal, then
as with regards to a _technical_ philosophy, if that
and the word "mathematics" were Pythagorean, being _rational_,
after reason the rationality, I'm not much asking a question
as saying there's an answer.
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"Logic" can be finger-counting or business-processes or
other mundane, transient nothings, there's logic in it,
whatever "is" the causality vis-a-vis magic which is not,
then "The Logic" in "A Theory" is must be, "true", Es muss sein.
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The "cyclic metaphysics" is that logicist positivism saw a
strong rejection of metaphysics, yet the only way it can
justify itself or for verum and certum is to have another
one, I consider these things in my podcasts, for example
about circulus virtus instead of circulus vitiosis.
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So, "who said logic is about ultimate truths", well,
that's sort of its definition.  Usually that's ascribed
to Platonism, technical.  Here "technical" means formal
and not necessarily nominalist, i.e., realist.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhXbcQjTHQ0&list=PLb7rLSBiE7F4eHy5vT61UYFR7_BIhwcOY&index=21
"Moment and Motion:  cyclic metaphysic"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIAM9XNbXCI&list=PLb7rLSBiE7F4_E-POURNmVLwp-dyzjYr-&index=12
"Logos 2000: circulus logicus virtus"

Date Sujet#  Auteur
22 Mar 25 * Quine's "Word & Object"10Ross Finlayson
23 Mar 25 `* Re: Quine's "Word & Object"9Ross Finlayson
23 Mar 25  `* There is no logic here (Was: Quine's "Word & Object")8Julio Di Egidio
23 Mar 25   +- Re: There is no logic here (Was: Quine's "Word & Object")1Julio Di Egidio
23 Mar 25   +- Re: There is no logic here (Was: Quine's "Word & Object")1Julio Di Egidio
23 Mar 25   `* Re: There is no logic here (Was: Quine's "Word & Object")5Ross Finlayson
23 Mar 25    `* Re: There is no logic here (Was: Quine's "Word & Object")4Julio Di Egidio
23 Mar 25     +- Re: There is no logic here (Was: Quine's "Word & Object")1Julio Di Egidio
23 Mar 25     `* Re: There is no logic here (Was: Quine's "Word & Object")2Ross Finlayson
23 Mar 25      `- Re: There is no logic here (Was: Quine's "Word & Object")1Ross Finlayson

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