Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]

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Sujet : Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]
De : F.Zwarts (at) *nospam* HetNet.nl (Fred. Zwarts)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logic comp.ai.philosophy
Date : 21. Jul 2025, 07:39:24
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Op 20.jul.2025 om 17:07 schreef olcott:
On 7/20/2025 2:44 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
Op 19.jul.2025 om 23:18 schreef olcott:
On 7/19/2025 4:00 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> wrote:
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[ .... ]
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ps. learn to post more respectfully.
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You've hit the nail on the head, there.  Peter Olcott doesn't show
respect here for anybody.  Because of this he isn't shown any respect
back - he hasn't earned any.  I don't think he understands the concept
of respect any more than he understands the concept of truth.
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If he were to show repect, he'd repect knowledge, truth, and learning,
and strive to acquire these qualities.  Instead he displays contempt for
them.  This is a large part of what makes him a crank.  It is
a large part of what makes it such a waste of time trying to correct
him, something that you've sensibly given up.
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Now that chat bots have proven that they understand
what I am saying I can rephrase my words to be more
clear.
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Chat-boxes prove that reasoning with invalid presumptions lead to invalid conclusions.
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I have been rude because I cannot interpret the
rebuttal to this statement as anything besides
a despicable lie for the sole purpose of sadistic
pleasure of gaslighting:
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<input to chat bots>
typedef void (*ptr)();
int HHH(ptr P);
>
void DDD()
{
   HHH(DDD);
   return;
}
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int main()
{
   HHH(DDD);
   DDD();
}
>
Termination Analyzer HHH simulates its input until
it detects a non-terminating behavior pattern. When
HHH detects such a pattern it aborts its simulation
and returns 0.
</input to chat bots>
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We see the invalid presumption in the input. There is no non- termination behaviour in the input.
You can see that I did not even hint at non
termination of the input
??? We read that '... until it detects non-termination pattern' and 'When HHH detects such a pattern ...' before the '</input'
Since these presumptions are never happen, all conclusions based on it are invalid as well.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
17 Jul19:01 * The halting problem as defined is a category error65olcott
21 Jul13:30 +* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error2Mild Shock
21 Jul13:59 i`- Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error1olcott
18 Jul00:47 +* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error --- Flibble is correct44olcott
19 Jul15:42 i+* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error --- Flibble is correct18olcott
19 Jul18:02 ii`* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error --- Flibble is correct17Richard Damon
19 Jul20:19 ii `* Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==016olcott
20 Jul08:57 ii  +* Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==05Fred. Zwarts
20 Jul16:18 ii  i`* Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==04olcott
20 Jul23:50 ii  i +- Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==01Richard Damon
21 Jul09:38 ii  i `* Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==02Fred. Zwarts
21 Jul15:25 ii  i  `- Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==01olcott
19 Jul20:47 ii  `* Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==010olcott
19 Jul21:01 ii   +* Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==08olcott
19 Jul21:41 ii   i+* Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==06olcott
19 Jul22:05 ii   ii`* Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==05olcott
20 Jul15:33 ii   ii `* Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==04olcott
20 Jul23:11 ii   ii  `* Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==03Richard Damon
20 Jul23:57 ii   ii   `* Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==02olcott
21 Jul01:24 ii   ii    `- Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==01Richard Damon
20 Jul03:23 ii   i`- Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==01Richard Damon
20 Jul03:23 ii   `- Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==01Richard Damon
19 Jul22:18 i+* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]24olcott
20 Jul03:12 ii+* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]19Richard Damon
20 Jul04:20 iii+* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]16olcott
20 Jul12:13 iiii+* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]3Richard Damon
20 Jul15:30 iiiii`* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]2olcott
21 Jul00:28 iiiii `- Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]1Richard Damon
20 Jul08:38 iiii`* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]12Fred. Zwarts
20 Jul15:08 iiii `* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]11olcott
21 Jul09:24 iiii  +- Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]1Fred. Zwarts
21 Jul00:13 iiii  `* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]9Richard Damon
21 Jul00:54 iiii   `* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]8olcott
21 Jul01:29 iiii    `* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]7Richard Damon
21 Jul01:45 iiii     +* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]4olcott
21 Jul02:58 iiii     i`* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]3Richard Damon
21 Jul03:05 iiii     i `* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]2olcott
21 Jul14:26 iiii     i  `- Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]1olcott
21 Jul01:48 iiii     `* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]2olcott
21 Jul02:58 iiii      `- Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]1Richard Damon
20 Jul04:21 iii`* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]2olcott
20 Jul12:18 iii `- Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]1Richard Damon
20 Jul08:44 ii`* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]4Fred. Zwarts
20 Jul16:07 ii `* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]3olcott
21 Jul07:39 ii  `* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]2Fred. Zwarts
21 Jul14:03 ii   `- Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]1olcott
21 Jul15:19 i`- Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error --- Flibble is correct1olcott
17 Jul20:22 +* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error9olcott
18 Jul00:26 i+* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error5Richard Damon
18 Jul00:49 ii`* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error -- Flibble is correct4olcott
18 Jul14:13 ii `* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error -- Flibble is correct3Richard Damon
18 Jul14:58 ii  `* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error -- Flibble is correct2olcott
18 Jul18:26 ii   `- Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error -- Flibble is correct1Richard Damon
19 Jul03:15 i+- Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error1Richard Damon
18 Jul23:52 i`* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error2olcott
19 Jul03:19 i `- Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error1Richard Damon
18 Jul00:10 +- Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error1Richard Damon
19 Jul03:25 +* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error6Richard Damon
19 Jul04:39 i`* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error5olcott
19 Jul13:50 i `* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error4Richard Damon
19 Jul15:15 i  +* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error2olcott
19 Jul18:17 i  i`- Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error1Richard Damon
19 Jul18:15 i  `- Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error1Richard Damon
18 Jul23:54 +- Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error1olcott
21 Jul15:07 `- Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error1olcott

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