Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error

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Sujet : Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logic comp.ai.philosophy
Date : 19. Jul 2025, 04:39:29
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On 7/18/2025 9:25 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 7/18/25 6:11 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 13:01:31 -0500, olcott wrote:
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Claude.ai agrees that the halting problem as defined is a category
error.
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https://claude.ai/share/0b784d2a-447e-441f-b3f0-a204fa17135a
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This can only be directly seen within my notion of a simulating halt
decider. I used the Linz proof as my basis.
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Sorrowfully Peter Linz passed away 2 days less than one year ago on my
Mom's birthday July 19, 2024.
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I was the first to state that the halting problem as defined is a category
error and I stated it in this forum.
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/Flibble
 But can't define the categories in a way that is actually meaningful.
 There is no way to tell by looking at a piece of code which category it belongs to.
 The category error comes from Olcotts ignoring the actual requirments of the problem, and trying to get away with non-programs.
It does turn out to be the case that the actual requirements
are anchored in a fundamentally false assumption and this
is key the error of the proofs. I finally articulated my
position on this so that it could be understood to be correct.
--
Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

Date Sujet#  Auteur
17 Jul19:01 * The halting problem as defined is a category error65olcott
21 Jul13:30 +* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error2Mild Shock
21 Jul13:59 i`- Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error1olcott
18 Jul00:47 +* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error --- Flibble is correct44olcott
19 Jul15:42 i+* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error --- Flibble is correct18olcott
19 Jul18:02 ii`* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error --- Flibble is correct17Richard Damon
19 Jul20:19 ii `* Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==016olcott
20 Jul08:57 ii  +* Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==05Fred. Zwarts
20 Jul16:18 ii  i`* Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==04olcott
20 Jul23:50 ii  i +- Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==01Richard Damon
21 Jul09:38 ii  i `* Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==02Fred. Zwarts
21 Jul15:25 ii  i  `- Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==01olcott
19 Jul20:47 ii  `* Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==010olcott
19 Jul21:01 ii   +* Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==08olcott
19 Jul21:41 ii   i+* Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==06olcott
19 Jul22:05 ii   ii`* Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==05olcott
20 Jul15:33 ii   ii `* Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==04olcott
20 Jul23:11 ii   ii  `* Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==03Richard Damon
20 Jul23:57 ii   ii   `* Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==02olcott
21 Jul01:24 ii   ii    `- Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==01Richard Damon
20 Jul03:23 ii   i`- Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==01Richard Damon
20 Jul03:23 ii   `- Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that HHH(DDD)==01Richard Damon
19 Jul22:18 i+* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]24olcott
20 Jul03:12 ii+* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]19Richard Damon
20 Jul04:20 iii+* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]16olcott
20 Jul12:13 iiii+* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]3Richard Damon
20 Jul15:30 iiiii`* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]2olcott
21 Jul00:28 iiiii `- Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]1Richard Damon
20 Jul08:38 iiii`* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]12Fred. Zwarts
20 Jul15:08 iiii `* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]11olcott
21 Jul09:24 iiii  +- Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]1Fred. Zwarts
21 Jul00:13 iiii  `* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]9Richard Damon
21 Jul00:54 iiii   `* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]8olcott
21 Jul01:29 iiii    `* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]7Richard Damon
21 Jul01:45 iiii     +* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]4olcott
21 Jul02:58 iiii     i`* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]3Richard Damon
21 Jul03:05 iiii     i `* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]2olcott
21 Jul14:26 iiii     i  `- Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]1olcott
21 Jul01:48 iiii     `* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]2olcott
21 Jul02:58 iiii      `- Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]1Richard Damon
20 Jul04:21 iii`* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]2olcott
20 Jul12:18 iii `- Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]1Richard Damon
20 Jul08:44 ii`* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]4Fred. Zwarts
20 Jul16:07 ii `* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]3olcott
21 Jul07:39 ii  `* Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]2Fred. Zwarts
21 Jul14:03 ii   `- Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as defined is a category error]1olcott
21 Jul15:19 i`- Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error --- Flibble is correct1olcott
17 Jul20:22 +* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error9olcott
18 Jul00:26 i+* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error5Richard Damon
18 Jul00:49 ii`* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error -- Flibble is correct4olcott
18 Jul14:13 ii `* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error -- Flibble is correct3Richard Damon
18 Jul14:58 ii  `* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error -- Flibble is correct2olcott
18 Jul18:26 ii   `- Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error -- Flibble is correct1Richard Damon
19 Jul03:15 i+- Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error1Richard Damon
18 Jul23:52 i`* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error2olcott
19 Jul03:19 i `- Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error1Richard Damon
18 Jul00:10 +- Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error1Richard Damon
19 Jul03:25 +* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error6Richard Damon
19 Jul04:39 i`* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error5olcott
19 Jul13:50 i `* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error4Richard Damon
19 Jul15:15 i  +* Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error2olcott
19 Jul18:17 i  i`- Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error1Richard Damon
19 Jul18:15 i  `- Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error1Richard Damon
18 Jul23:54 +- Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error1olcott
21 Jul15:07 `- Re: The halting problem as defined is a category error1olcott

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