Sujet : Re: Incorrect mathematical integration
De : r.hachel (at) *nospam* wanadou.fr (Richard Hachel)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativityDate : 22. Jul 2024, 22:37:40
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Le 22/07/2024 à 21:34, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit :
Den 21.07.2024 23:06, skrev Richard Hachel:
Let's look at the LHC again.
The length of the circuit is L = 27 k, γ = 7460
L=27 km
γ = 7460
I admit it.
The real speed of the proton in the lab frame is
v = 0.999999991·c
Vo=0.999999991c
Vr=Vo/sqrt(1-Vo²/c²) anosochronic lure, Vr=7453.56c
Vo=Vr/sqrt(1+Vr²/c²)=0.999999991c
The real time measured in the lab frame for the proton to go
around the circuit is
T = L/v ≈ 90 μs
Absolutely.
The proper time of a proton to go around the circuit is
τ = T/γ ≈ 12 ns
That's what I say.
"proper speed" = L/τ = 6947c
Yes.
This "speed" is not the speed of a proton or anything else.
It is. Calculate p=mVr and E=mc².sqrt(1+Vr²/c²)
The proton is moving at the speed 0.999999991·c relative to the lab,
and the lab is moving at the speed 0.999999991·c relative to the proton.
That what I say. There is nothing illogical or abnormal there.
And you thought that the real speed speed of the proton in the lab frame
was 6947c and therefore you "tell them [the physicists at CERN] that
the proton rotates 78 million times per second".
Which is 6933 times the real number, ≈ 11.25 thousand times per second.
But no!
We can't say that if a proton spins once, it spins thousands of times, that's stupid.
No one will ever tell you that.
R.H.