Sujet : Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails.
De : tjoberts137 (at) *nospam* sbcglobal.net (Tom Roberts)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativityDate : 25. Jun 2024, 04:57:01
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On 6/23/24 3:48 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 6/22/24 9:54 PM, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
Paul Anderson, thanks for the pdf. Your formula employs the
electromagnetic assumption that gravity moves at the speed of light.
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You got this backwards. In GR, changes in gravity propagate at the local
symmetry speed, given by SPECIAL Relativity. It "just so happens" [#]
that electromagnetic waves travel at this same speed in vacuum. It is
merely an historical anomaly that it is called "the speed of light", due
to the round-about way Einstein first described relativity in 1905 --
the spacetime symmetry is MUCH more fundamental and important.
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[#] This is neither happenstance nor accident....
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BTW modern derivations of SR don't use electromagnetism at all.
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Your formula (1) has c^2 and it is clearly not 1^2, and is in m/s,
contrary to Lodder.
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Nope. YOU have imposed specific units onto the formula/equation. The
equation itself does not impose any particular units on its variables
and constants [@], it merely requires that they be self-consistent.
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[@] There are many systems of units in common use. You
seem to think there is only one.
A forteriori, any result that depends on any particular choice
of units (or dimensions) is unphysical.
Yes, of course. Good point. Similarly, any result that depends on choice of coordinates is unphysical.
Tom Roberts