Re: Replacement of Cardinality

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Sujet : Re: Replacement of Cardinality
De : james.g.burns (at) *nospam* att.net (Jim Burns)
Groupes : sci.logic sci.math
Date : 27. Jul 2024, 18:34:48
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On 7/26/2024 12:31 PM, WM wrote:

_The rule of subset_ proves that
every proper subset has
less elements than its superset.
⎛ Each non.{}.set A of ordinals holds min.A

⎜ Ordinal j = {i:i<j} set of ordinals before j

⎜ Finite ordinal j has fewer elements than j∪{j}

⎝ ℕⁿᵒᵗᐧᵂᴹ is the set of ALL finite ordinals.
ℕⁿᵒᵗᐧᵂᴹ breaks the rule of subset.
If ℕ has fewer elements than ℕ∪{ℕ}
then
|ℕ| ∈ ℕ
|ℕ∪{ℕ}| ∈ ℕ
ℕ ≠⊂ {i:i<ℕ∪{ℕ}} ⊂ ℕ
ℕ ≠⊂ ℕ
and
ℕ has fewer elements than ℕ
Because ℕ does not have fewer elements than ℕ
ℕ does not have fewer elements than ℕ∪{ℕ}
and the rule of subsets is broken.

_The rule of subset_ proves that
To make a claim
  is not sufficient
to make a proof.
To make a finite sequence of claims
  such that no claim is first.false
  is sufficient
to make a proof.
The most that is true here is that
the rule of subset _claims_ without proof that

every proper subset has
less elements than its superset.
⎛ In English, grammatically speaking,
⎜ it is never correct to say "less <plural.noun>"

⎜ English has mass nouns (Stoffnamen)
⎜ "less rock" ...
⎜ and count nouns (zählbare Substantive)
⎜ "one rock", "fewer rocks" ...
⎜ Only count nouns have a plural.
⎜ Only mass nouns are modified by "less".
⎝ "Less rocks" and "lescs elements" are never correct.
⎛ ...as you (WM) know, since you've been told.
⎜ Why you say what you say is often more mysterious
⎜ than what you say.

⎜ Perhaps you see a mass noun as more appropriate
⎜ to your darkᵂᴹ numbers -- to number purée?
⎜ That's not the way it would be said.

⎜⎛ The smaller bucket holds fewer rocks and less rock.
⎜⎝ Every proper subset has less element than its superset.

⎜ Perhaps you intentionally insert small errors
⎜ in order to draw attention away from large errors:
⎜ dropping verbal chaff.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaff_(countermeasure)

⎝ Perhaps looking ignorant is your kink.

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