Re: Replacement of Cardinality

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Sujet : Re: Replacement of Cardinality
De : wolfgang.mueckenheim (at) *nospam* tha.de (WM)
Groupes : sci.logic sci.math
Date : 20. Aug 2024, 14:07:25
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Le 19/08/2024 à 20:12, Jim Burns a écrit :
On 8/19/2024 1:17 PM, Moebius wrote:
Am 19.08.2024 um 18:58 schrieb Jim Burns:
 
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You got it totally wrong!
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The dark unit fractions are smaller than
the (all) visible ones.
 No positive point is a lower.bound of
all the visibleᵂᴹ unit.fractions. (lemma)
 Each darkᵂᴹ unit.fraction is a positive point.
 No darkᵂᴹ unit.fraction is a lower.bound of
all the visibleᵂᴹ unit.fractions.
 No darkᵂᴹ unit.fraction is smaller than
all the visibleᵂᴹ unit.fractions.
 ----
Lemma.
No positive point is a lower.bound (lb) of
all the visibleᵂᴹ unit.fractions.
 ⎛ Assume 0 < lb.⅟ℕᵈᵉᶠ ≤ glb.⅟ℕᵈᵉᶠ = β
⎜ not.bound 2⋅β > ⅟k ∈ ⅟ℕᵈᵉᶠ
⎜ not.bound ½⋅β > ¼⋅⅟k ∈ ⅟ℕᵈᵉᶠ
⎜ bound ½⋅β < β
⎝ Contradiction.
 ¬(lb.⅟ℕᵈᵉᶠ > 0)
 
Now:
The visible unit fraction don't have
a smallest one (of course),
 More than that.
The visibleᵂᴹ unit fractions don't have
a positive lower bound.
WM has not quite conceded that.
  The last I've seen, he omits 'greatest'.
If he ever does, it is game over.
0 is the greatest lower bound because every greater number can be undercut by a visible unit fraction.
 With or without his concession,
there is no positive lower bound of
visibleᵂᴹ unit fractions,  and
there is no darkᵂᴹ unit.fraction.
Dark unit fractions cannot be defined. The GLB that can be defined is 0.
 
WM: "Dark unit fractions have a smallest element."
 WM says a lot of things.
If dark unit.fractions are positive lower bounds of
visible unit fractions,
Impossible. Lower bounds must be definable.

then they don't exist,
The function NUF(x) grows by 1 at every unit fraction. It starts from 0.
Regards, WM

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