Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)

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Sujet : Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)
De : james.g.burns (at) *nospam* att.net (Jim Burns)
Groupes : sci.logic sci.math
Date : 01. Jan 2025, 22:14:56
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On 1/1/2025 1:10 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
On 07/29/2024 12:46 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
On 07/29/2024 12:44 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
On 07/29/2024 05:32 AM, Jim Burns wrote:
On 7/28/2024 7:42 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:

about ubiquitous ordinals
>
What are ubiquitous ordinal?

The "ubiquitous ordinals", sort of recalls Kronecker's
"G-d made the integers, the rest is the work of Man",
I think Kronecker's integers are the finite ordinals.
Are you saying that 'ubiquitous' means 'finite'?

So, "ubiquitous ordinals" is exactly what it says.
It's surprising how unhelpful some answers can be.

Or, you know, "infinity plus one".
Consider the definition of a finite.cardinal as
the cardinal #A of a set A
smaller.by.one than sets fuller.by.one
#A ∈ ⟦0,ℵ₀⦆  :⇔  (#A < #(A∪{a}) ⇐ A ≠ A∪{a})
If,
as might be expected,
infinity.plus.one is different from simple.infinity,
then,
under that definition,
infinity is finite.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
1 Jan 25 * Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)13Ross Finlayson
1 Jan 25 `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)12Jim Burns
2 Jan 25  `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)11Ross Finlayson
2 Jan 25   +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)4Ross Finlayson
2 Jan 25   i`* Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)3Jim Burns
2 Jan 25   i `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)2Ross Finlayson
2 Jan 25   i  `- Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)1Jim Burns
2 Jan 25   `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)6Jim Burns
2 Jan 25    `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)5Ross Finlayson
2 Jan 25     +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)2Ross Finlayson
3 Jan 25     i`- Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)1Ross Finlayson
2 Jan 25     `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)2Jim Burns
3 Jan 25      `- Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)1Ross Finlayson

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