Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)

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Sujet : Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)
De : james.g.burns (at) *nospam* att.net (Jim Burns)
Groupes : sci.logic sci.math
Date : 02. Jan 2025, 22:55:54
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On 1/2/2025 2:07 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
On 01/02/2025 09:35 AM, Jim Burns wrote:

The logic (FOL) of variables and universesⁿᵒᵗᐧᴿꟳ
does not require an all.inclusive universeᴿꟳ
We only need to be able to talk about
what we are talking about, the current universeⁿᵒᵗᐧᴿꟳ,
whichever that is.

"The Logic", ?
First.order.logic, AKA predicate.logic
variables which range over some non.unique universeⁿᵒᵗᐧᴿꟳ
of what we are talking about.
Claims true.without.exception for
members of the universeⁿᵒᵗᐧᴿꟳ ('axioms')
Finite sequences of claims, each claim of which
is true.or.not.first.false (axiom.or.inference).
Given all that, each claim in such a sequence
is true.without.exception in that universeⁿᵒᵗᐧᴿꟳ
A wider, all.inclusive universeᴿꟳ plays no role.

Is it, "not.ultimately.untrue"?
⎛ Student:
⎜ Does a dog have Buddha.nature?
⎜ Zhaozhou:
⎝ Mu.
I don't see how to make sense of
"not.ultimately.untrue" in the context of
true.or.not.first.false claims.
Following a revered (though different) tradition,
I un.ask the question and answer:  Mu.
There is no ultimate.possible not.first.false claim.
So, to be perfectly literal,
no claim can be ultimately.untrue.
Or ultimately.true.
Each claim is not.ultimately.untrue and
each claim is not.ultimately.true.
I doubt that my answer actually answers
anything even a little bit like
what you intend, so I un.ask the question.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
1 Jan 25 * Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)13Ross Finlayson
1 Jan 25 `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)12Jim Burns
2 Jan 25  `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)11Ross Finlayson
2 Jan 25   +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)4Ross Finlayson
2 Jan 25   i`* Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)3Jim Burns
2 Jan 25   i `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)2Ross Finlayson
2 Jan 25   i  `- Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)1Jim Burns
2 Jan 25   `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)6Jim Burns
2 Jan 25    `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)5Ross Finlayson
2 Jan 25     +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)2Ross Finlayson
3 Jan 25     i`- Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)1Ross Finlayson
2 Jan 25     `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)2Jim Burns
3 Jan 25      `- Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals, integer continuum, linear continuum, continuity)1Ross Finlayson

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