It is obvious that the Sun and the EArth create so-called energy all the time, and have been doing so for billions of years. All that energy gets lost in the infinity of space. What they are actually creating is radiant force (and momentum from moving particles). Energy is a term to make the bloodsucking oil parasites happy. It is a bottling of force, for use to drive things around. Alas, we live in a bunny-ah (trader) world, so must follow its rules. The bunnyah like things simple and profitable, so e=mcc suits his small mind admirably. With nukes, it creates fear in the population, so much that the bollocks derivation of that formula, with wrong assumptions/postulates are simply ignored. And any naysayer systematically persecuted (Arindam is by no means the only one!) Arindam, in 1998. discovered a formula that relates to energy creation and destruction related to matter and internal force. Basically it assumes that a body can be moved by internal force. That is it will reach any speed v at time t with continuous acceleration caused without any external influence. v=at; thus, the very first formula in dynamics. Point is, that it violated Newton's first law of motion. Inertia, in short. But with engineering this problem can be averted. In Arindam's book "To the Stars!" written in 1999, this aspect is dealt with at length. Woof woof woof woof woof Bertietaylor --