Sujet : Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-)
De : ttt_heg (at) *nospam* web.de (Thomas Heger)
Groupes : sci.physics sci.physics.relativity sci.mathDate : 02. May 2025, 09:08:59
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Am Samstag000026, 26.04.2025 um 13:39 schrieb bertietaylor:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 5:43:39 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
Am Donnerstag000024, 24.04.2025 um 20:41 schrieb Physfitfreak:
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Americans words are so unreliable that 3rd talk might be the last, as I
mentioned before.
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So Iran is now testing Europeans' degree of servitude towards USA in the
light of recent tariff related development to see if in the absence of a
deal with USA they could have a deal with Europeans, Russia, and China.
Effectively replacing Americans with the Europeans.
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Europeans haven't responded yet.
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There are no 'Europeans'.
Let us say if you are born or live permanently in Europe, you are an
European.
No.
You were talking about ethnic relations with 'Europeans', while actually use geography to categorize people into 'tribes'.
But there is or were no tribe or people called 'Europeans'.
Europe is a huge continent and inhabited by tons of different tribes and nations.
'European' could therefore only be an attribute used for citizenship.
Since there exist a politician entity called 'European Union', it would be possible to call all citizens of all nations forming the EU 'Europeans'.
But that is, of course, not correct, because there are some countries in Europe, which do not belong to the EU.
So, 'European' could be used for people, who live in Europe at a certain time.
That would be slightly closer, but would differ in the set of people, who were born in Europe, but do not live there anymore.
So, all in all, 'European' cannot be defined properly, hence there does not exist any well defined set of people, you may rightfully call 'Europeans'.
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Europe is a huge continent, which is populated by a large number of
people, which live in a large number of nations.
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I, for instance, live in Germany.
You are a German.
'German' is actually Latin and means something like 'man with a spear'.
The Romans called certain people 'Germanes' who didn't live in the region currently called Germany.
The people named 'Teutones' and 'Angeln' settled in current Denmark.
(Lower-) 'Saxons' settled in Germany, but also in other regions outside present Germany. But the current state of Saxony isn't the region where the ancient Saxons settled and the current Saxons are not related to the ancient Saxons.
Germans call themselves 'Deutsche', which in not related to a region or an ethnic group, but to the language 'Deutsch' (=German).
This language was widely spoken in many parts of Europe and was among the ancestors of Dutch and English, for instance.
Now German is spoken mainly in Germany, Austria and Switzerland.
TH
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