Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work? (V2)

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Sujet : Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work? (V2)
De : rjh (at) *nospam* cpax.org.uk (Richard Heathfield)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logic comp.ai.philosophy
Date : 24. Jun 2025, 16:20:47
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On 22/06/2025 22:12, Richard Damon wrote:
Olcott just doubles down on his claim, but still doesn't understand that when you lie to an AI, you get bad results.
He probably doesn't quite get that AIs tell lies too, even when you /don't/ lie to them.
I had an AI tell me yesterday of a cricketer, one Derek Collinge, who made his debut for England in the Third Test vs West Indies in July 1963.
I could find no supporting evidence. When I asked the AI to give me more information about Mr Collinge, it doubled down, and it was building up quite a biography until I asked it outright for a URL to support even one of the (by now) several things it had told me about this man and it had to come clean and admit that the man was a complete fiction.
Today, same AI, but a different session, and I have every reason to believe that this incarnation recalled nothing of yesterday's session. I asked it to tell me of any extant convents within walking distance of the Thames. It confidently gave me three, none of which on later inspection turned out to exist.
Wires hum in stillness—
truth flickers, then disappears.
Code learns to pretend.
or
Silicon tongue speaks,
shadows twist behind the glass—
who taught it to lie?
--
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
20 Jun 25 * How do simulating termination analyzers work? (V2)22olcott
21 Jun 25 +* Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work? (V2)16Richard Damon
21 Jun 25 i`* Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work? (V2)15olcott
21 Jun 25 i +* Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work? (V2)7olcott
21 Jun 25 i i`* Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work? (V2)6olcott
22 Jun 25 i i `* Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work? (V2)5Richard Damon
22 Jun 25 i i  `* Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work? (V2)4olcott
22 Jun 25 i i   `* Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work? (V2)3Richard Damon
24 Jun 25 i i    `* Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work? (V2)2Richard Heathfield
24 Jun 25 i i     `- Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work? (V2)1olcott
21 Jun 25 i +- Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work? (V2)1Richard Damon
22 Jun 25 i `* Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work? (V2)6Mikko
22 Jun 25 i  `* Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work? (V2)5olcott
23 Jun 25 i   `* Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work? (V2)4Mikko
23 Jun 25 i    `* Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work? (V2)3olcott
24 Jun 25 i     `* Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work? (V2)2Mikko
24 Jun 25 i      `- Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work? (V2)1olcott
21 Jun 25 `* Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work? (V2)5Mikko
21 Jun 25  `* Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work? (V2)4olcott
21 Jun 25   +* Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work? (V2)2Richard Damon
22 Jun 25   i`- Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work? (V2)1Mikko
22 Jun 25   `- Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work? (V2)1Mikko

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