Re: The Suspicious Journals of Ross A. Kosmanson :-)

On 03/26/2025 11:38 AM, Jim Burns wrote:

On 3/26/2025 1:24 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
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take 2 eggs and put it in front of you...
Where is the number 2?
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at the sign post up ahead..
You just crossed over into...The Platonic Zone!
DUN-DUN-DUN-DUN-DUN-DUN-DUUUUNNNNN!

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I thought the Platonic Zone sounded like
DEEDLE deedle DEEDLE deedle...
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and circles don't exist.
and law of physics don't exist.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPS5Yw_YsHA
Death's speech in Hogfather (Discworld) (1m54s)
⎛ ...
⎜  SUSAN:
⎜ Now. Tell me...
⎜  DEATH (Susan's grandfather. By adoption.):
⎜ ...what would have happened if you _hadn't_ saved him?
⎜  S:
⎜ Yes.
⎜  D:
⎜ The sun would not have risen.
⎜  S:
⎜ Then, what _would_ have happened?
⎜  D:
⎜ A mere ball of flaming gas
⎜ would have illuminated the world.
⎜  S:
⎜ Alright, I'm not stupid.
⎜ You're saying that
⎜ humans need fantasies to make life bearable.
⎜  D:
⎜ No.
⎜ Humans need fantasy to _be_ human.
⎜ To _be_ the place where the falling angel
⎜ meets the rising ape.
⎜  S:
⎜ With Tooth Fairies. Hogfathers.
⎜  D:
⎜ Yes.
⎜ As practice, you have to start out
⎜ believing the _little_ lies.
⎜  S:
⎜ So we can believe the big ones.
⎜  D:
⎜ Yes.
⎜ Justice, mercy, duty, that sort of thing.
⎜  S:
⎜ They're not the same at all.
⎜  D:
⎜ You think so?
⎜ Then take the universe and grind it down
⎜ into the finest powder,
⎜ and sieve it through the finest sieve,
⎜ and then show me
⎜ one atom of justice,
⎜ one molecule of mercy.
⎜ And yet.
⎜ You try to act as if there is some ideal
⎜ order in the world.
⎜ As if there is some, some _rightness_
⎜ in the universe by which it may be judged.
⎜  S:
⎜ But people have got to believe that.
⎜ Or what's the point?
⎜  D:
⎜ You need to believe in things that aren't true.
⎝ How else can they become?
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There was this one Twilight Episode with Captain Kirk
as a passenger-flight passenger with a window seat.
So anyways it was a dark and stormy night and he heard
a bump and he looked outside and a guy in a creature from
the Black Lagoon outfit was out shredding up some of the
distributor cables on the engine on the wing.  So Kirk
was like "Miss, oh Miss", to the stewardess, and like
"there's a gremlin tearing up the motor" and the stewardess
was like "you are a crazy person now be nice".
So it happened a couple times and Kirk just kind of shut
his window, yet then he heard it again and opened the
window and there was the monster with its lamprey-mouth
mouthing like "disbelieve your eyes, you crazy person".
Then Kirk was pretty much agitated and hysterical and
it's like they hauled him off the plane in a straitjacket
mumbling something about gremlins and they were like
"that's a crazy person" yet, then the motor had been
real fouled up.
Anyways that's a television show and it's not real.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightmare_at_20,000_Feet
Hey, like that one where the guy comes out of plastic
surgery, and looks all beautiful, yet all the doctors and
nurses freak out in disgust, then it pans to them and
they have wax absence-of-faces.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_the_Beholder_(The_Twilight_Zone,_1959)
Then I suppose there's the one where the guy's got
all the time in the world then breaks his glasses.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Enough_at_Last
Like "Lord of the Flies" up in there.
Anyways the "mathematical platonism" is the sort of
idea that _all_ mature and thorough philosophers of
mathematics arrive at, over time.  Then, figuring out
the inter-subjectivity about it is a usual thing that's
the exercise of idealism and reason and super-classical
reason since antiquity.
It's a continuum mechanics, ....