Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing?

On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 5:48:11 +0000, Physfitfreak wrote:

On 4/13/25 11:53 PM, Bertitaylor wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 4:27:33 +0000, Physfitfreak wrote:
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On 4/13/25 11:08 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:

On 4/13/25 10:49 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:

On 4/13/25 10:04 PM, Bertitaylor wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 2:40:25 +0000, Physfitfreak wrote:
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Better yet contract kala-azar and

just die :) I want my space in my fridge.

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My great uncle found the cure for that disease, saved many millions of
lives.
A great inspiration for me, Roachie.
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Pure bullshit. The name of the discoverers of the parasite is still
part of its scientific name (Leishmania donovani). I read a book in
the 1990s about the discovery also; a detailed account of the
unbelievable struggle that led to its discovery, and yes, millions
were saved after that.
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One was British, the other Irish. Years apart.
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The hardest part, according to that book, was to find the life cycle of
the parasite. The mechanism of transmission. It was like starting from
having absolutely no clue, and by funky tries, trying to zero in on it.
It took a long long time and many many mistakes and misconceptions and
misinterpretation of data to at last land on what was the real culprit.
That little fly, a form of sand fly. The parasite would clog up its
needle-like mouth, and then when eating someone else's blood would
transmit some of the parasites into the new patient. And this repeated
on all other humans that the fly fed on. They generally all died not
that long after. Hundreds of thousands of them at a time.
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Perhaps your "great uncle" cleaned the floor of the center that one of
these researchers was working it, who knows :)
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Oh Ok I see. You were talking about a cure, not the discoveries
involved. Yes some Indian found a way to cure the patients. But what
stopped kala-azar from killing people in large masses was the discovery
of how it works and therefore preventing the growth and spread of that
fly.

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What saved millions of lives was the medicine the patients got.
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That flies and mosquitoes caused trouble was very well known. What was
not around was the cure. Dr Brahmachari researched and found the cure.
Just as the cure for malaria was found. With British help he made a
factory to produce the medicine and sell it cheaply so that the disease
got eradicated. A great and most worthy example, for Arindam.
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The desire to suppress genuine Vedic talent by the descendants of the
thrashed and humiliated Alexander is overwhelming. Seems to have
increased these days, what with Amazon stealing Arindam's IP, and his
global persecution.
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Things were far better during the Raj. Dr Brahmachari was knighted for
his wonderful work ridding the world of this disease.
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Pathetic, too.
Shit!
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Woof woof
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Bertietaylor
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Bullshit. Almost 100% of people who died of it could not afford the
medication, and the medication was not 100% effective either. The real
deal was preventing the spread of the flies. Just like malaria.

No, roach. The rampaging disease was wiped out as such so there are only
rare cases. Arindam never knew a single one when he was in India. Yes
the British rail system created a lot of stagnant water, creating
diseases like malaria. But they also introduced quinine, which helped.

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Half-ass "cure" for malaria is at hand too, yet millions of babies
today, each year, die of it because they don't control the standing
waters around them effectively enough.

Ancient history, Roachie. Quinine helps a lot.
Present Indian govts go all out to help the poor if they are low caste,
the lower the better. Free food, free education, free health, pensions,
no taxes save some gst, reservations for jobs... all they have to do is
to vote for their castefellow. High castes emigrate and send remittances
which help to fund the show. Nice all round, what.
So things have improved all around. No elephantiasis, no smallpox, no
polio, etc. around. So people look good. Cholera, typhoid, malaria under
control. That explains India's 1400000000 population, healthy and mostly
happy unless they have petulant theological drives. Well fed, too.
Enjoying great music with smartphones, chatting to their hearts'
content. Not working too much. Great! Then politicians, cricketers, film
stars, etc. are there to entertain. What more to ask from the world,
Roachie? Nearest apes can get to the pampered canine state, what, woof
woof.

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Kala-azar didn't disappear but went way down the list of highly
devastating epidemic diseases because of similar actions in preventing
the creation and spread of that particular fly.

Those who got it were saved. It had a 95% mortality rate. No more thanks
to Dr Brahmachari. Yes DDT was used liberally to kill mosquitoes. That
helped.
Woof woof
Bertietaylor
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