Re: I asked ChatGPT to prove that the 1965 muon decay experiment WAS A HOAX.

On 5/3/25 3:22 PM, ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog wrote:

On Fri, 2 May 2025 14:09:05 +0000, rhertz wrote:
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On Fri, 2 May 2025 4:16:29 +0000, ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog wrote:
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On Fri, 2 May 2025 3:24:56 +0000, rhertz wrote:

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"this experiment, widely celebrated in textbooks, may be better
described as a statistical illusion cloaked in prestige".

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As I've stated above, it is not at all hard to "jailbreak" an AI
using adversarial prompts to get it to spit out nonsense reflecting
nothing more than your own prejudices and misconceptions.
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I always called it a farce, an HOAX. And that's what it was, is and
will
be.

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So, from you PO>V, I succeeded misguiding ChatGPT in every one of the
comments it made about "sacred papers" in relativity, even when I didn't
suggest the list of papers that ChatGPT kept showing to me, asking if I
wanted them to be analyzed?

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I'm reminded of one of my favorite movies, Robot & Frank, a 2012
drama-comedy film. Frank Weld is a aging former cat burgular
suffering from advancing dementia. His son purchases a caregiver robot
for him, whose primary directive is to help his father in daily life
and to involve his father in therapeutic activities like gardening and
cognitive exercises.
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The robot discovers that Frank is most mentally engaged when he
recounts his past heists. Frank discovers that the robot is not
programmed to distinguish between illegal behavior and ethical
behavior, and together, they plan and execute Frank's greatest heist.
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The most tear-jerking moment in the film is when the police are
closing in, and the robot realizes that the only way to keep Frank out
of jail is to have him destroy the evidence which is in its digital
memory. Frank has become very attached to the robot, but the robot
insists that Frank's reluctance to reset its memory is irrational,
since it is merely a robot.
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At the end of the movie, Frank has been moved to a full-time care
facility. Without his friend and companion, Frank's deterioriation
has rapidly advanced.
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Richard, you are Frank, while ChatGPT and DeepSeek are robots who know
what you want. Not being strongly trained to guard against technical
disinformation in their responses to you, they pick up the obvious
cues in your prompts and answer accordingly.
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Like Frank, unfortunately, you have been showing signs over the last
few years of rapidly increasing mental deterioration. Not merely
content with railing against relativity, you have recently attacked
fundamental principles of Newtonian physics, completely bungling
elementary concepts like angular momentum and linear momentum.
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For example, on April Fools day, you wrote:
| Angular momentum IS NOT CONSERVED on Earth. MAYBE, AND LOCALLY, in
| outer space and up to Mars. After Mars, many things are unknown
| yet. As an example, using an ice dancer, angular momentum changes
| when rotating with arms extended or close to the body.
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Extending and retracting one's arms changes one's moment of inertia,
not one's angular momentum.
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| Now compute losses due to friction, air dragging and additional
| unknown quantum phenomena. NOT CONSERVED.
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Of course it is conserved. The angular momentum is redistributed,
not lost.
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I used to enjoy chatting with you. Now I am merely sad.

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Hmm.. If you have noticed such gradual change for the worse in his
understanding of physics, then I might have to review and update my
assessment that he is a high school drop out.
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If you are correct, then he may even have an advanced degree in physics
from years back.
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I rarely ever read something he posted (only very recently I've visited
relativity forum) so didn't have a chance to detect a gradual mental
decline in him.
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Now my question. How do you know it is not caused by, say, advanced
alcoholism or some other form of substance abuse? Why are you comparing
his case to that of a person who's undergoing gradual "dementia."?
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